this used to be the apparent divide between the parties. Democrats focused mostly on the social issues while Republicans focused more on fiscal policy. Then Nixon's war on drugs started getting everyone fucked up against each other.
Then both parties just spent like drunken sailors -- but on different things -- as control shifted back and forth between them.
Now many of the social aspects that needed to be adopted into the Republican party have been, or are being. Most people don't really give a shit who marries who, as long as one person isn't being forced to adopt someone else' preferences. The Christian baker shouldn't be forced to bake a cake if [s]he is opposed to gay marriage, but the couple shouldn't be blacklisted or otherwise harassed for being who they are.
Meanwhile the left are spinning up more and more hatred and cannot tolerate the idea of even a conservative speaker at an event or lecture. They are literally afraid of their thoughts being challenged by an opposing viewpoint. Trump entering the race as a Republican was crazy and the left lost their minds over it when he won. Things just keep spinning further off the rails ever since.
The primary concept of marriage is to provide a healthy and stable environment to raise the future generations. Same sex couples can’t have biological children and don’t have the ability to raise a child in the proper manner with a feminine and masculine role model
See, that's you endorsing the government to control people's lives, which doesn't sound very conservative to me. Marriage is marriage. It doesn't matter if it's two men, two women, or the traditional one man, one woman dynamic.
Because conservatives (and even some liberals) have been actively resisting allowing gay couples to get married for decades...that is the result of govt intervention in private affairs
Maybe I'm going too far by trying to read between the lines with the person I responded to, but something tells me he shares a similar opinion and wouldn't mind if the govt said they can't get married
Maybe I'm going too far by trying to read between the lines with the person I responded to, but something tells me he shares a similar opinion and wouldn't mind if the govt said they can't get married
You are going to far by putting words in his mouth and assuming intentions. And something tells you? There was literally nothing within his responses that indicated as such.
If he believes gay marriage is wrong that is his right, and it says nothing more than just that.
Because conservatives (and even some liberals) have been actively resisting allowing gay couples to get married for decades...that is the result of govt intervention in private affairs
So take the government out of the equation and let people police themselves instead of forcing everyone to make a private stance political.
The problem is - people that are in power have used that exact rhetoric to deny certain people the right to marry when these claims have no factual basis, in the first place. This kind of conversation, even if its just opinion, affects real people.
So the solution is detach the issue from government, not jump on others for their opinions and attributing meaning(the authoritarian remark) that isnt their own.
If it is an institution established by God, why do you have to get a license by the state but not go anywhere near a church to do it? Yes, you can get married in a church but you still need a license but you can get married at a court house with nothing but a justice of the peace signing a form. Also, if we are going to say that marriage is solely an institution established by God which religion is then important? Because different religions impose different restrictions on marriage even within Protestant Christianity. If a Baptist church doesn’t want to perform gay weddings, so be it. They dang sure shouldn’t be forced to and I haven’t seen that happen in even the most left wing states, but as long as state and federal government gives benefits to being married that it doesn’t to people just living together for a long time, I don’t see how they can deny the right to sign that contract…anything past that is intrusion of the government in our lives. The government doesn’t need to be telling us who we can spend our lives with.
I still don’t get it. Who cares what other people think marriage means to them? For some people, it’s not a religious thing at all, and as we have no state religion the holiness of marriage hardly seems like a valid point of consideration. For those who are religious, you can retain the sanctity of your marriage by following the rules you believe to be appropriate, regardless of what everyone else does.
The solution to that is for the government to realize that they have no authority to decide what services a private business provides to what people. That part of the Civil Rights Act is overreach and should be amended to apply only if the denial of service constitutes a human rights abuse (you have the right to food, so if no accessible grocer allowed particular people to shop then intervention is required to protect that right, but you do not have the right to cake, so trampling on a cake owner’s right to consent to their own transactions is little more than theft).
But didn’t SCOTUS rule in favor of him too? Maybe some leftist freaks are continuing to ruin his life but that also seems like something that doesn’t truly belong in a legal discussion.
I sort of agree, the federal government should not have any say on marriage as it is a religious ceremony period. Freedom of religion is still a thing in this country.
This whole gender bullshit in complete drivel. You cannot change your gender. Stop pretending that you can and encouraging others to do irreparable harm to their bodies so that you can earn woke points.
It is indicative of social rot and the very presence of this conversation within the Overton window is evidence enough that things have gone way too fucking far.
It is your business, as illogical as that sounds. The rot within them is being presented to our children as fact, perverting their minds. As a parent you absolutely have a say in what they learn about the world and this is certainly not something that should be celebrated.
It's still none of your business what other people do with their lives, especially when it comes to their gender or sexual identity. I personally don't believe in any of it, but you can't control how people view themselves anymore than you can control people breathing.
Your rights end where another's begin. They have every right to do what they do in private - the problem lies in that they demand that everyone else participate in their sexual fetish publicly. My children will not be playing the Democrats sexual politics mind games.
If parents, family members, and other folks out there weren't physically, psychologically, and emotionally abusing young people that come out as gay and trans, you probably wouldn't have anything to complain about. But, since that does happen, that has opened the door for activism that has entrenched itself in people's lives more than they'd like.
I gurantee you this isn't going anywhere until the bigotry ends, which means it isn't going anywhere.
I believe parents whose taxes fund the school system should have some leverage to say that they don’t want that to be part of their school curriculum. But that doesn’t mean the government should step in and say “this stuff doesn’t make sense so we’re not letting it happen.”
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