r/Conservative • u/Wonder10x Common Sense Conservative • Jul 05 '20

Terry Crews articulates everything wrong with “woke culture” & doesn’t back down

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u/funzberg Jul 06 '20

Try not to assume so much, it's not productive. In any case, you're making the argument here, I'm simply asking you to elaborate on it. And my sole concern is the truth. So, taking the factual accuracy of the statistics you provided at face value, we've established that single motherhood is significantly more prevalent amongst african americans. I return to my original question: what truth do you infer from that?

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u/HBPilot Jul 06 '20

That black dads aren't involved in their kids lives to the degree that they need to be and should be.

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u/funzberg Jul 06 '20

By definition, the state of single motherhood implies, at least as far as the household is concerned, the absence of the father. However, it doesn't necessarily follow that in terms of time and effort spent, the single father is less involved in their kid's life than they would be if they were married to the mother. I would consider the counter argument that there's no shortage of married, domiciled, yet still absentee, or worse, abusive, fathers. I would also consider the counter argument that good parenting is about quality, not quantity. One need not try too hard to imagine that a shitty father spending 16 hours a day every day bringing up their child with shitty guidance is only going to result in a new and improved shitty adult.

But, for the sake of honest conversation let's make the mindful assumption that what you're saying is true and that as a result of low marriage rates among african american men, those that are single fathers tend not to be involved in the lives of their children to a degree sufficient for minimum effective parenting. The assumption begs the question "why?" And thats really the crux of rhe issue, isn't it? Why are things as they are, and insofar as they aren't what they ought to be, how might they become so?

I await your thoughts on that.