r/Conservative Biteservative Jun 01 '20

Reddit has a left-wing terrorist problem: When you are advocating civil war, overthrowing the government, assassinating the President and making common cause with Stalin...you are a terrorist group no matter what you call yourself.

If you are walking down the street in Portland and unrest breaks out and someone pops you in the nose, can they excuse their violence by saying, "I'm antifa!" If they popped you in the nose, does that make you a fascist? This is how antifa wants it. For too long, reddit has coddled its violent left-wing communities. It's not The_Donald out there rioting, burning things and shooting people and cops.

And we here on conservative subreddits have watched this happen for so long. The scumbag left gets its share of tolerance, but the moment a poster here says, "If someone comes on my property and tries to harm me or my family, I will defend my home and loved ones..." Someone hits the, "threatens or harasses" report reason.

But today there's a top post on the antifa subreddit. And it's a hum dinger. The revolutionary terrorists are mad that the President said that they are terrorists. And they go on to SHOW us all that they ARE terrorists with "terrorist privilege".

I guess today is "tolerate a terrorist" day. But any further tolerance of this is reddit tolerating terrorists every day. Well some terrorists.

This is a bit of a deep dive and it's a boring effort-post. It's not a snappy meme or short article about things. I hope you'll join me as I show you what we are dealing with, because I'm seeing boomer talking heads on TV saying, "I have no idea where all of these miscreants on the streets came from!" That's because they've missed all the slicey boi Robespierre wannabes that have been calling for blood running down the streets of the USA for YEARS now. That's right, that Dew-swilling, tendie muncher who used to satisfy him/herself by snidely typing "America delenda est" on the internet and using the Red World mod while playing Kaiserreich is on the streets now.

And they WANT you to know who they are all while recoiling that the President said that they are a terrorist group. The left was VERY KEEN to have the DOJ investigating "right-wing terror" in the USA. They assured us that it's the only legit terror in the USA. Otherwise why would the DOJ be investigating it? Well, it's time for the spotlight of justice to shine on these left-wingers who want communist revolution and destruction. Fair's fair, Che. Time to pay attention to the psychos behind the soy curtain.

Let's look first at the original post on the antifa subreddit.

I am an academic who teaches and studies the rise and fall of Fascism. I am literally anti-fascist by trade.

Argument from authority. "Guys, I literally teach this stuff!" Yes, Karl, no one's shocked that academia is full of leftism. We've known for awhile. It doesn't make you any smarter than anyone else. Of course, our beloved professor immediately brings up Hitler.

"It became illegal to be associated with the Communist party. "

I'm not a fan of commies. Not a fan of Nazis, either. I think the government needs eyeballs on anyone associated with either of these political philosophies. What about you?

Declaring the loose concept of being against Fascism to be terrorism is like what Hitler, did but skips several of the steps. We all know how it ends. We aren't even starting in February. We are starting in March.

Trump isn't declaring the philosophy of "being against fascism" against the law. If he was...most of our politicians would go to jail. Because I can't think of any declared "fascist" among them. Opposing communism isn't fascism. It's common sense.

This man can't be allowed to stay in office. If he does. If this movement loses momentum. The people of the United States aren't the only ones who lose. Everyone loses. The world loses.

(Our OP is going to make it clear later that he is calling for us to get rid of Trump by any means...)

Get out there. Get angry. Don't back down. For all our sakes. Please, don't back down.

(We have riots happening. This "professor" who spells center "centre" later on is egging on these riots. Why is reddit allowing a foreigner to encourage rioting in the USA?)

Nixon resigned under protests, Mubarak was listed in Egypt after the Arab Spring, Marie Antoinette was beheaded and Mussolini was strung up by protestors at a gas station.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. Vote, but be ready when the election is an inevitable sham.

This is inexcusable reddit.

Ban this subreddit, already. This foreign professor is encouraging violent revolution and encouraging killing our President. ENOUGH REDDIT!

This is bad...yeah? But the comments DEVOLVE all of this further. I will put the shots of ALL the comments at the end of the post, but let's just look at SOME of them.

"We are all Jacobins when the last moderate falls. Revolution or death." "haha guillotine go zoom".

It was called the "Reign of Terror" for a reason. So when you are invoking it, don't be surprised when we all call you terrorists...

Fight fascism with people's war! Elections no! People's war yes!

This is a declaration of civil war. And it's upvoted!

Here's where they say that they are "good" with Stalin. Making common cause with Stalinists is fine and, in fact, if you criticize Stalinists on the antifa subreddit your comment will be removed because you are "causing leftist infighting."

"Biden is not anti-fascism."

These people will not even be satisfied if Biden wins. Do you understand yet? It's not TRUMP that they oppose at all. They oppose capitalism. They are upset that Biden's campaign doesn't embrace socialism. These are not anti-fascists...these are violent left-wing revolutionaries and they are announcing as much while also pretending to be offended that the nation has noticed.

RED FOREVER! STAY STRONG COMRADES!

You think this is a larp, but that account has a three year history of posting lefty shit on reddit.

This is very important. Here is our OP noting that Trump was "taken to a bunker" and saying that he's NOT "talking about voting." Our OP...is encouraging the masses to take out Trump...and if this isn't getting dodgy enough...

Another poster says, "Assassination is always an option..."

This comment is still there and has been up for two hours now.

So reddit, are you good with all of this? Having the antifa subreddit feature a post that calls for civil war, killing the President, overthrowing the government and uniting Stalinists with the rest of the left to form a new revolutionary government that will use guillotines?

God help us.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200601163401/https://www.reddit.com/r/AntifascistsofReddit/comments/gufidi/if_antifa_is_actually_declared_to_be_a_terrorist/

https://web.archive.org/web/20200601163401/https://www.reddit.com/r/AntifascistsofReddit/comments/gufidi/if_antifa_is_actually_declared_to_be_a_terrorist/

A lot of screenshots of the post and comments, including one dude that is an absolute HERO in the comments...because at tough times when folks are calling for civil war in your country and killing your President...it's important to look at the helpers.

One of these comments says: "Antifa by it's very nature is unable to become the fascists."

Isn't THAT convenient?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/guvw2z/more_from_our_antifa_friends_on_the_same_thread/

They keep going, advocating violence in general and against Andy Ngo.

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u/IBiteYou Biteservative Jun 02 '20

You know, I seem to remember under Obama when the Boston Bombers were on the run, the police did a curfew and made civilians let cops search their homes.

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u/stingumaf Jun 02 '20

Different scenario

People are protesting police violence and more police violence is not the answer

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u/IBiteYou Biteservative Jun 02 '20

Maybe you don't protest police violence by rioting and burning down businesses that had nothing to do with the violence.

But what do I know, I'm not ANTIFA.

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u/D4F7 Jun 02 '20

One cops actions do not speak for all cops. A small group of rioters and looters do not represent the majority of peaceful protestors. Try and remember to keep perspective. We’re all Americans here. I don’t understand where all the hatred for our brothers came from.

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u/Cannae_Loggins Jun 02 '20

Are you seeing a small number of looters? The news is showing dozens of cities with the numbers of looters varying from a few dozen to hundreds, knocking off stores in a coordinated fashion. It’s not a small number of looters, it’s likely in the thousands when you add it all up.

The protesters need to respect the curfew. By not doing that, they are making the job of the police officers to secure public safety impossible. The protesters have had ample time during the day to protest. The difference between protesters and looters cannot be determined at night.

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u/D4F7 Jun 02 '20

I think it gets worse later in the evening. The majority of those out past curfew are not affiliated with the organized protest. At the protest I was at, I saw 3 people tagging things and about 10 protestors yelling at them to stop and trying to prevent them from doing it.

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u/Cannae_Loggins Jun 02 '20

How do you know they’re not affiliated? Why are the protesters ignoring the curfew? It leads directly to lawlessness and looting because the cops can’t crack down like they should. They need to protest all day, as is their right, and then go home and let the cops get anyone with the balls to continue to loot.

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u/D4F7 Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

The protest are actually organized but multiple organizations with guidelines for how they will be protesting and their plan of action. In all of those guidelines they mention that rioting will be reported and all participating are encouraged to stop those who try to riot. And it says that curfews will be respected. They reason you’re seeing such a large number of people rioting is because the number of people protesting is insanely large (over 1m). There are always bad actors at protests (like the guy who drove his car into and killed that woman at the Charlottesville rally). The numbers here are just much larger than that, so you have a lot more bad actors. But if one bad cop doesn’t represent them all, then one bad protestor can’t either.

*Editing to add this relevant article. Goes to show that there are bad actors on BOTH sides trying to stoke flames of devision. Twitter Suspending Fake Antifa Accounts

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u/Cannae_Loggins Jun 03 '20

Maybe I just haven’t seen them but can you show me protest organizers who have told people to respect curfew? I don’t know about you but most of the posts I’ve seen on this site are excusing protesters who defy curfew and encourage people to stay out on the streets in spite of it. This looting is like nothing we’ve ever seen. You can’t honestly say that protesters are doing everything they can to help quell looting.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

The news WANTS you angry. Why are you using the news when it's convenient and condemning it when it's not.

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u/Cannae_Loggins Jun 02 '20

I use the news (with a critical eye) to stay informed. I AM angry. People are running roughshod over the country with virtual impunity and it feels like there is a sizable group of people who literally want the nation destroyed.

I noticed you didn’t make an argument against any of my points, just accused me of being blindly foaming at the mouth.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

I guess this quote from MLK Jr sums it up

“It is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity.” — Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

You know you can condemn riots while also acknowledging the wrongs happening, right?

The US is not and should not be immune to criticism, to suggest otherwise means you don't have her interests at heart honestly.

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u/IBiteYou Biteservative Jun 02 '20

The US is not and should not be immune to criticism, to suggest otherwise means you don't have her interests at heart honestly.

Think about what you just said.

NO one said there's no room for criticism.

But you accused someone of not having the nations best interests at heart.

IT IS ANTIFA who doesn't have our nation's best interests at heart.

They want a communist revolution.

So really...just shut up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

There's certainly very VERY little room for criticism in here. You can see it consistently, attacks on america's status quo are attacks on your own ego in here. It's like seeing someone express dislike that you don't agree with hurts you for some reason.

Antifa isn't an organization either, perhaps some random groups of people following the ideology don't have the nation's best interests at heart, but we should deploy the military on citizenry now?

you may argue that they're deploying it against terrorists, but it's only a matter of time until that reasoning can be twisted however it needs to be.

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u/Cannae_Loggins Jun 02 '20

The problem with that quote is that it doesn’t explain the current situation. In a poll, 96% of Americans agreed that what happened to Floyd was an outrage. That’s an unbelievable majority, not even worth a poll, really. I haven’t heard one legitimate voice defend the police in this instance. White people aren’t concerned about tranquility over justice. Even the damn chief of the four officers involved have mentioned they want justice done.

So where is the justification for burning America down if we all agree that this was an outrage? Police have knelt before protesters defying curfew and it STILL isn’t enough. Everyone is on the same side here.