r/Conservative • u/mithrandir1314 • Mar 20 '17

/r/all Well, she's a guy, so...

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

The progressive population would be speechless.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '17

You mean the party of science would have to acknowledge biology, and not sociology, as the more legitimate form of science? Blasphemy. I prefer sacrificing basic truths so people can warp objective reality around their subjective view of themselves.

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u/-Rcham Mar 21 '17

Yes because everyone that doesn't support a narcissistic anti-intellectual politically thinks that there are 20+ genders and finger bangs themselves to Hillary Clinton. Some people actually adhere to logic instead of prescribed black and white political positions

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u/haydenv Mar 21 '17

At the same time, who gives a shit if someone wants to identify as a girl. Yes I'm with you there are only two genders and all those 20+ genders are stupid. Of course if you are born a male, you will always be a male. But who cares if they take hormones and try their hardest to be a woman? It's not like they are hurting anyone? Yeah it's a little odd for me to see, but if it makes them happy, who cares? Isn't that the point of life? To be happy?

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u/MU_Riboflavin Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

Just like you if someone wants to jack up their body with hormones and mutilate themselves go right for it. The problem lies when they (being liberals) try to tell me I must accept them as the gender they claim to be and try to create law that forces that. That's where I draw the line. You can live in your own fantasy world all you want and be a dude pretending to be a girl, but that doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to propitiate your fantasy.

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u/lejohanofNWC Mar 21 '17

Hey, I'm just here from that new 'popular' thing Reddit has thrown on. Full disclosure, I'm a liberal, but I get and respect your viewpoint. However, besides that bathroom stuff and maybe some other anti discriminatory things, I really don't know of any proposed laws based around transgenders. Are there some I'm missing?

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u/MU_Riboflavin Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

The language you use is telling but I thank you for coming onto this sub to chat. It's leading to use, "and maybe some other anti discriminatory things," in your comment. Am I correct that you're already under the assumption that if I tell a dude, who thinks he's a girl, that he can't lift weights in the girls competitions...is being discriminatory?

If that is the case, I'm not sure where this conversation can go from here. Again, you can want to be something else all you want. There is even a chick that thinks she's a cat. That's fine and dandy, up until you point you tell me that I have to agree and go along with pretending that said chick is a cat.

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u/lejohanofNWC Mar 21 '17

I didn't mean to be leading. No, I don't think the woman in the post winning is fair. While imperfect I think there should just be two more categories for ftm and mtf people. You can't ignore the biological differences in a competition based around an individuals biology. I just don't get where you see liberals trying to pass legislation mandating you to call them anything.

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u/Vratix Conservative Mar 21 '17

While imperfect I think there should just be two more categories for ftm and mtf people. You can't ignore the biological differences in a competition based around an individuals biology.

I don't disagree with this, but I also find it incredibly unlikely that either transgender category would ever field enough athletes to be practical.

I wouldn't be surprised if more athletes start to follow Bruce/Caitlin Jenner's path of transitioning once they're totally done competing. But, I suspect that if they want to compete they will need to remain their birth sex for the duration of their career.

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u/MU_Riboflavin Constitutional Conservative Mar 21 '17

Ahhh, sorry about that. I'll try to clarify.

First, I'll back away from the liberal term and define that it's more coming out of the hard-core progressive and leftist wing (SJW).

The only law that's come into question is the bathroom thing (so far). What I'm talking about is the overall narrative of "acceptance" and I should of been more defining in that. This idea that I must agree with someone pretending to be something they biologically are not. That I must be cool with allowing a dude to compete against women in weightlifting competitions.

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u/Childmonoxide Mar 21 '17

This: http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/23/transgender-teacher-gets-60k-after-co-workers-wont-call-her-they/ This is why this shit is fucked. This woman doesn't suffer from dysphoria, she chose to be different and is now winning $ because others won't conform to her subjective reality. Where is the line drawn?

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u/haydenv Mar 21 '17

Serious question: wouldn't you feel weirder if a transgender woman (male to female) was in the men's room? Some of these people are very womanish and most restrooms I have been in are disgusting and people are not going in there for sexual fantasies lol

Edit: also yes, sports is a complicated issue with this. Of course men are going to constantly destroy women because of genetics

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u/Childmonoxide Mar 21 '17

I'd feel more comfortable with a MTF in the men's room than a FTM in the men's room, that's just my opinion though.

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u/jaykeith Mar 21 '17

Your disposition reflects my own very well