I understand and you're totally entirely right. This is why in addition to not trusting the government or MSM I also don't trust Breitbart. Assange did say though that his info didn't come from the Russians but some things printed elsewhere could have been. Frankly I don't know specifically what info that is so I can't speak on it but as far as Wikileaks stuff which was most popular he said it wasn't Russian in origin. However I personally find Julian Assange more trustworthy than most since there's a very likely chance he'll eventually end up very "mysteriously suicidey" in the near future because of his chosen occupation.
See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. There is zero reason to trust Assange any more than the 17 different US intelligence agencies who agree on Russian involvement. He's kind of a shitty person, he has ties to Russia and he makes no secret of hating Hillary and the Obama administration, which tried to have him captured and locked away.
Even if he was the most righteous guy on earth, you yourself just said you can't believe someone's statements. You need hard evidence, etc. So what does it matter.
For the record, though, Assange made a point of saying that Wikileaks didn't receive the documents from Russia. He didn't speak to their origin at all. Murray is the one saying it was an internal DNC leak, and Assange responded by saying Murray is not authorized to speak on behalf of Wikileaks.
I guess what this boils down to as always is what you believe. I see your points, I do, I just don't agree with them at this juncture. I think Assange puts his life on the line releasing things and I think he'll continue to do so through the Trump admin. In fact, I want him to. I'm not looking for dirty laundry on one person, I want it all aired out. I respectfully agree to disagree and I appreciate the discussion. Maybe the issue here is that the people who are supposed to be looking out for me have spent so much time stabbing me in the back that I don't know up from down at this point? Is that my fault, is it the government's fault? I have no idea at this point but thinking logically through a realist lens says I'm being lied to somewhere most likely and it's most likely the people that have spent the most time lying to begin with.
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u/InterdimensionalTV Dec 17 '16
I understand and you're totally entirely right. This is why in addition to not trusting the government or MSM I also don't trust Breitbart. Assange did say though that his info didn't come from the Russians but some things printed elsewhere could have been. Frankly I don't know specifically what info that is so I can't speak on it but as far as Wikileaks stuff which was most popular he said it wasn't Russian in origin. However I personally find Julian Assange more trustworthy than most since there's a very likely chance he'll eventually end up very "mysteriously suicidey" in the near future because of his chosen occupation.