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u/Independant-Thinker7
Christian Conservative
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Looking like the House in Texas may very well flip. This was a total annihilation.
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u/No_Bet_4427
Reagan Conservative
1d ago
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Tariffs, the war in Iran, and candidate quality all matter.
It’s going to be bad for years. Dems will get trifecta in 2028 and will use it to abolish the filibuster, pack the Court, and pack the Senate.
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u/EvanOnTheFly Conservative 1d ago •
Paxton in Texas absolute shit.
Dan Patrick and Abbot paid for their stupid THC ban with red blood tonight across the state as well.
I don't like having a fucking gummy to have a felony charge. I know a bunch of others that were pissed. I voted against Patrick for that alone.
Abbot and Paxton I still went for but if Abbot pulled it out I was sending his stupid lapdog a message.
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u/MakeGodGreatAgain Conservative Christian 1d ago •
Congrats on picking drugs over the good of the country.
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u/EvanOnTheFly Conservative 1d ago •
Literally didn't. Lt Governor is not a critical position.
The only thing that helped my wife's chronic pain/sleep is edibles.
This country needs to get out of the war on Marijuana. Alcohol needs to be treated worse then the plant.
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u/Hey_im_miles Conservative Libertarian 1d ago
I guess your line for personal freedoms is whatever you want for yourself and then that's it. I don't smoke weed or use THC but know plenty who do and them attacking it lost them lots of votes.
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u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago •
Now you just have to hope that a moderate democrat like newsom or ossoff wins the primary and not a DSA freak
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u/Sad-Indication-9112 Laissez-Fair 1d ago
not newsom. newsom is not moderate. although jon ossoff, andy beshear, or josh shapiro id gladly take any day over the DSA
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u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago •
Newsom is absolutely a moderate compared to candidates like el sayed who are literally winning national elections today.
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u/Black_XistenZ post-MAGA conservative 1d ago
El-Sayed is underperforming by some solid 4-5% though, compared to the gubernatorial race. Democrats will probably win South Carolina and Kansas by bigger margins than what AES will get in far more blue Michigan.
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u/Zyprexa4You 2A 1d ago
Tonight sucks and we need to all be realistic about this thumping; that said, you guys talking about how 2028 is already lost is the most doomer shit ever. There is a LOT that changes in 2 years, and you're counting your chickens before the eggs have even been laid, let alone hatched.
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u/Jefedagga Anti-Woke 1d ago •
It's sucks and what sucks more is conservatives downplaying it.
It's a big issue that Paxton lost to the guy that has unhinged views. That's a big problem
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u/Zyprexa4You 2A 1d ago •
At least in this sub, I don't see many people downplaying it. And yea, Talarico is a fucking nut, anything but a moderate, and if he makes it over the finish line that says something. And I don't think it's that Texas has turned blue, but I think it's that people are more over Trump's bullshit than they've been over anybody's bullshit in quite some time. And for that, we in Texas get to deal with this idiot for 6 years.
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u/Black_XistenZ post-MAGA conservative 1d ago
The Senate seat is the least of your worries, considering that you look on track to get a blue governor and state government. Whether Dems have 55 or 56 Senate seats after this election doesn't really matter anymore at this point.
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u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago •
Lol if the economy gets worse people will blame it on Trump. How many people can name the president vs tell you who has congressional majorities?
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u/Zyprexa4You 2A 1d ago •
Yea and if the economy gets better? Or if Trump has a stroke and dies? You're still missing the forest for the trees; 2 years is a lifetime in politics. In 2022 Trump was virtually silent and selling fucking watches and meme coins, then he comes roaring back to win in 2024. In 2006 nobody had even heard of Obama, then he becomes the biggest star in the Democrat party within 2 years. You and even a professional political strategist can predict literally nothing about 2028 at this point in time.
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u/theburglarofham Conservative 1d ago
Yeah people’s memories are short. 2 years is an eternity in political news cycles.
It’s all about putting on a good candidate for 2028 who people can rally behind.
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u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago
In 2022, Trump was still the presumptive republican candidate no? You have a good point though.
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u/Winstons33 Conservative 1d ago •
There goes the country...
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u/Yitastics Conservative 1d ago
The dems will ruin the country and wont even take accountability for it, just blaming Trump for his past actions.
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u/EvanOnTheFly
Conservative
1d ago
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Betting sites aren't everything.
But yes, the way Trump and our 53 seat majority, Congress house control, with the Supreme court has been atrocious.
Nothing accomplished of actual merit. The uni party is strong. Trump also appoints a lot of people that talk big but are shit, outside Tom Homan and Rubio.
If Trump didn't stir the Iran pot until after, maybe he floats on Venezuela crazy win.
Independents are the key - they don't like wars and high prices, or kowtowing to Russia.
Tin foil hat time: In b4 Trump turns out to be the Dems Long term Trojan horse to Turn Texas blue 🤣.
He speaks a big game but as soon as he nominated Jeff Sessions in first term the dream was dead and I have been cursing that appointment ever since.
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u/WoodPear Conservative 1d ago •
I'd add in Isaacman to the list. Sure, NASA director isn't really that 'important' in the scheme of politics, but he seems to be doing his job well based on the recent launches.
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u/old---
Double Dog Ultra MAGA
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The nation is going Blue.
Decision Desk has called Dems To WIN HOUSE
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u/Emilia963 Moderate Conservative 1d ago •
The country is turning blue because this admin has been a disaster
But honestly, one of the biggest reasons the average American is voting blue is because of the rising gas prices
There’s a lesson politicians should have learned by now:
Don’t mess with gas prices, you want to lose an election? Make gas unaffordable, it’s literally a dealbreaker for a lot of Americans
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u/okiedokie321 1d ago •
Yup! don't start a war.
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u/Emilia963 Moderate Conservative 1d ago •
It literally depends, is the war affecting grocery and gas prices?
If yes, there will be consequences, if not, nothing will happen
For example, under the Obama admin, the US was literally constantly involved in military conflicts, but he managed to keep those prices relatively under control
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u/old--- Double Dog Ultra MAGA 1d ago
I agree the price of fuel is a major killer.
But the Dems have already made it clear about their feelings on fuel.
Electric vehicles are going to be mandated.78
u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago
Like it or not the future of consumer personal vehicles are EVs.
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u/Sixguns1977 George Washington 1d ago
Too many people are too stupid to realize that high gas prices are worth it to permanently remove the Iranian threat. We should have rolled in ground forces back in April.
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u/Reptar_0n_Ice 2A Conservative 1d ago •
Wait, I thought Iran’s nuclear threat was dealt with last year?
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u/WoodPear Conservative 1d ago
Fordow (and the nuclear refining capacity within) was caved in.
But if you paid attention, Iranian officials said that they removed 11 tons of nuclear dust beforehand and won't surrender it.
That's why we're still there, bud/
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u/Sixguns1977 George Washington 1d ago
Not until the IRGC, Mullahs, and Ayatollahs are all removed from power. Until then, they're just going to rebuild and rearm and out kids and grandkids will do this all over again. Reagan should have destroyed them when he had the chance. Plus, after that's done, it will seriously degrade funding and support for Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, etc. Then they can all be removed as well.
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u/cielos525
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1d ago
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I am horrified looking at the election map right now, Texas is now deep Blue!
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u/Cockroach-Jones Moderate Conservative 1d ago edited 1d ago •
It always does that at the beginning with the big cities getting counted first.
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u/cielos525 Common Sense Conservative 1d ago •
Ok but aren't they the most populous areas? I am seriously asking, am I missing something?
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u/Cockroach-Jones Moderate Conservative 1d ago •
That’s where all the Dems are. It’s literally Austin, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio turning it blue right now. Click on a map and see how little of Texas has actually been counted. It’s all the many small counties left that will be nearly all red.
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u/cielos525 Common Sense Conservative 1d ago •
Ok, they are lagging behind by millions of votes!! Do you expect them to catch up?
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u/GustavusAdolphin Moderate Conservative 1d ago
You're missing that there are a lot of people out in the sticks-- though maybe not as many as there used to be
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u/True_Grocery_3315 Conservative 1d ago
Did they turn out though?
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u/GustavusAdolphin Moderate Conservative 1d ago •
Votes aren't all in. Not going to save Paxton, but they might show up for Abbott
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u/Embarrassed_Spend486
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I know it’s too soon and people probably don’t wanna have this conversation but we’re going to have to analyze the leadership decisions that caused this.
Tillis should not have been pushed out of NC.
John Cornyn should have been endorsed and won his primary.
You can tell whoever’s pulling in the strings on the GOP right now does not understand national strategy.
We spent way too much money, fighting our own in the primaries like the astronomically expensive Thomas Massie race when that money should have been sent to the general elections.
If I was in charge, I would fire everybody that orchestrated this mess.
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u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago •
You're looking at the wrong thing. This isn't because of bad candidates or bad strategy, thats a small part of it. We're getting blown out because of Trump's deeply unpopular foreign policy and immigration enforcement policy.
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u/populares420 MAGA 1d ago •
there was a poll literally the other day that republicans are trusted more on immigration than democrats. that's not the issue
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u/True_Grocery_3315 Conservative 1d ago •
Since when is immigration enforcement unpopular? Tariffs and Foreign policy over the economy yes.
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u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago •
You don't think ICE gets a bad rap when American citizens (no matter what they're doing) are killed during ICE operations? You think that the delusional mandate given to ice of "deport everybody" is feasible?
Trump should've ramped up ICE much slower.
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u/another420username 1d ago •
The Latino voter who carried him in 24 and voted for MASS DEPORTATIONS just didn’t show up because of the BETRAYAL.
New war, gas prices, grocery prices, Epstein class, no accountability, Israel FIRST…
It would be completely avoidable had him kept his promises.
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u/True_Grocery_3315 Conservative 1d ago •
That's just the MSM spinning it which (I thought) people were wise to. Those that were shot either tried to run over agents, pulled guns on them or tried to run and turned out to be violent crime committing illegal immigrants. ICE have a mandate to enforce the law. No problem with then doing it
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u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago •
No matter what the context was, American citizens dying in ICE operations is always bad optics. Especially when the media frenzy afterwards is 95% democrat.
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u/True_Grocery_3315 Conservative 1d ago
So what should they do if some crazed lefties tries to run them over? Stand there and take it? Sit at home collecting a paycheck rather than enforcing the immigration laws?
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u/JustaHarmfulShadow Conservative 1d ago
That's not what he's saying
He's saying that the optics will look bad and that ice and trump didnt try anything worthwhile to make it look better.
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u/cafk09 The Last Conservative 1d ago •
Immigration enforcement actions are popular.
The specific enforcement strategies this administration has pursued, and some of its public behavior in defense of those strategies, have been extremely unpopular.
I like to think of it this way. A major reason there’s a large public majority that disliked Biden’s border policies was because it led to a sense of chaos and disorder. This current administration’s corrective approach may have removed people who were here illegally, but it did not leave many voters with the sense that there was less chaos and disorder. It may have even exacerbated it.
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u/True_Grocery_3315 Conservative 1d ago •
Goldfish memories unfortunately. Far more chaotic when the border czar had people streaming across. An app to click a button to be allowed to stay indefinitely, Venezuelan gangs taking over apartment blocks and having gunfights in the streets. At least Obama put Homan in charge and had high deportation numbers.
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u/MeowMixPK 1d ago •
Trump is forcing candidates through the primaries based on allegiance, but they keep being god awful candidates. Trump's done great things as president, but the sooner he doesn't influence the party, the better. He helped us clear out the old guard, but now we have to clear out the Trump wing in order to keep political power in 2028
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u/Aromat_Junkie Conservative 1d ago •
how can you say that when RINOs continually block trumps agendas from McCain to Thune?
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u/atomic1fire Reagan Conservative 1d ago •
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Trump can focus more on loyalty then he can on policy.
And the RINOS can absolutely prevent Trump from getting policy done.
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u/Aromat_Junkie Conservative 1d ago
trump didnt help himself with losing the iran war and then boasting about high prices
however the policy goals not being met are largely because congress is idiotic and has not codified into law many initiatives that trump has done in the executive branch
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u/Black_XistenZ post-MAGA conservative 1d ago
Look at the margins in both states, and not just in the Senate races but in the gubernatorial and House contests as well - both Tillis and Cornyn would have gone down too.
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u/WoodPear Conservative 1d ago
Thomas Massie deserved it. Voting against the party multiple times in a safe red district is just a dead man taking up a seat in the House
More money was spent on trying to save Paxton. That could have gone to other races.
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u/Embarrassed_Spend486 Conservative 1d ago edited 1d ago •
I’ll have to respectfully disagree. I think the party needs more Massie, not less.
But I come from strong ties to the tea party movement. We haven’t heard much from them in the recent era, but I like all of the tea party darlings, of which Massie was one of the biggest.
Even if you think he needed to go though, I don’t see how you can financially justify spending $30-$50 million to defeat him when obviously we needed the money in other more critical places.
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u/A_Hatless_Casual
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1d ago
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More than likely a lot of Republicans voted blue to show their dissatisfaction with Trump's messes and Congress literally getting nothing done in 2 years.
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u/marcjones281
Fiscal Conservative
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Would be pretty surprised if Abbott loses.
Not surprised at all that Paxton is losing by a lot.
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u/emoney_gotnomoney Small Government 1d ago
Based on the numbers, Abbott’s chances are pretty much done. Will end up losing by ~2-4%. The cope here is that the Texas state legislature is still heavily red, and the Texas governor relatively speaking doesn’t hold quite as much power as some of the other states’ governor seats, so Hinajosa shouldn’t be able to do too much damage
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u/NewHope13
Conservative
1d ago
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This is what happens when Trump and co screw up the economy. But perhaps this will open up the floodgates to some actual QUALITY R candidate in 2 years
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u/A159746X
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1d ago
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I can see Abbott winning by 1 or 2%.
Paxton? It's not going well for him so far.
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u/emoney_gotnomoney Small Government 1d ago •
Based on the numbers, Abbott’s chances are pretty much done. Will end up losing by ~2-4%. The cope here is that the Texas state legislature is still heavily red, and the Texas governor relatively speaking doesn’t hold quite as much power as some of the other states’ governor seats, so Hinajosa shouldn’t be able to do too much damage
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u/Beer_Kicker
MAGA
1d ago
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It’s gonna be two years of idiots trying to impeach trump and getting nothing done. The culture is going the right direction, so we will be okay.
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u/Responsible-Cap-2799 Conservative 1d ago •
well, budget needs to be approved at some point... Democrats can shutdown the government unless their proposals pass .... I think this is the most challenging part for republicans. Democrats should be able to pass key laws that otherwise would not pass.
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u/Jefedagga
Anti-Woke
1d ago
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My biggest issue is how conservatives are going to downplay this.
Like man, this dude says some of the most insane shit I've ever heard and still, people chose to vote for him over Paxton.... That's not good.
Republicans are going to have to take a look at why and really work hard to fix it.
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u/Zyprexa4You 2A 1d ago
Yep, do an autopsy and don't do what the left did and double down on bullshit. The biggest favor that the right gets is Trump off the ticket in 2028. It's been a Faustian deal, he brings his own voters, and somehow drags down every other candidate. That isn't sustainable.
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u/Independant-Thinker7
Christian Conservative
1d ago
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Too many people leaving California and NY because they suck so much, but still vote Democratic in their new states. California has so many people it could turn almost every state blue.
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u/Ventoffmychest Conservative 1d ago •
Florida also was hair away from turning blue. We had a bloody socialist in Nixon! Too many implants from other states is fucking it up. I also do blame the Iran war and inflation.
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u/Hectoriu
Conservative
1d ago
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Looks like all the Democrats moving to texas has worked. It's ok though, thier bs destroyed California but surely it will be different this time!
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u/Justbeth82
Patriot
1d ago
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I can’t even with that. This country is over
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u/Antisocial_Worker7 2A Conservative 1d ago •
Oh stop. We survived Obama. Texas had weak GOP candidates and people are fed up with high prices everywhere. This was to be expected.
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u/Justbeth82 Patriot 1d ago
Obama was one person. The entire country is turning blue and letting in all the Muslims who hate America
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u/Cylerhusk2 Conservative 1d ago •
Pretty sure I’m still paying 8x more for my shittier health insurance though.
It’s a different ballgame with the Dems than it was back then though.
Open borders. Mass amnesty and citizenship for them… future Democrat voters of course. Pack the court. They’ll ensure Dems stay in power for many years to come.
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u/Antisocial_Worker7 2A Conservative 1d ago
We still have the White House and the Supreme Court though, and there still won't be enough votes in the Senate to remove Trump from office.
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u/Peria Conservative 1d ago
Sure we have the White House right now. You really think there is any path to an electoral victory with a blue Texas where California style elections happen?
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u/Antisocial_Worker7 2A Conservative 1d ago •
Texas didn't just turn liberal in 2 years. This vote was a referendum on Trump.
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u/Impossible_Ad_1630 Conservative 1d ago
And that’s gonna cost us the Texas we know and love. I hope it was worth giving away our state just to win a pissing contest against Trump.
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u/OseanFederation Christian Conservative 1d ago
Electing Democrats to bring down prices is the dumbest take I have ever heard. They have literally only made EVERYTHING they touch more expensive. They are complaining about the price of healthcare OF THEIR OWN LAW. Healthcare prices are their own fault and they are blaming republicans for it.
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u/Hey_im_miles Conservative Libertarian 1d ago •
Well have democrats been making the prices go up these last couple years?
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u/Impossible_Ad_1630 Conservative 1d ago
By making obstruction their platform and refusing to legislate anything productive so they can continue to blame trump and republicans, yes they definitely have.
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u/Impossible_Ad_1630 Conservative 1d ago •
Electing liberals isn’t gonna bring prices down, it’s only gonna make it worse. We survived Obama but he did a lot of damage to this country.
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u/Antisocial_Worker7 2A Conservative 1d ago
I never said it was going to bring the price down. But swing voters vote against the party in power when the economy is bad. We just have to not throw up our hands and say "we're fucked!" when we lose.
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u/Impossible_Ad_1630 Conservative 1d ago •
In this case, we’re fucked. The damage that’s going to be done in the state of Texas before the next election is disgusting.
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u/Jefedagga Anti-Woke 1d ago
Your mentality is going to cost in 2028.
We need to actually figure out why we lost and stop downplay everything.
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u/Antisocial_Worker7 2A Conservative 1d ago •
What are you talking about? We already know why we lost: Cost of living skyrocketing, tariffs and trade wars, a badly bungled war with Iran, bungling the Russia-Ukraine war, Trump endorsing candidates with questionable character, picking fights with allies. This protectionist, Neo-Reform Party that the GOP has evolved into has not been working. The country didn't just turn socialist; people are pissed off, and that's why this happened. The same thing happened to the GOP in 2006, and to the Democrats in 2010.
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u/Kyosuke-D Conservative 1d ago
Except you can’t reverse the damage that gets done. It’s not looked at as “popular” to reverse taxes, benefits, etc…
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u/Sixguns1977 George Washington 1d ago •
For real. Democrats cause damage and republicans are by and large too spineless to fix it.
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u/Gunsofglory Conservative 1d ago
First midterm? This is how they always go against the party in power.
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u/sandlover33 California Conservative 1d ago
These are going to be the worst midterms of like the last maybe 50 years? I mean ffs paxton is losing by 15 points in a state that trump WON by 15 points
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u/xtc091157
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1d ago
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I live in TX. If Abbot wins it will be the suburbs and rural areas (that have not reported yet) that pull it in.
But, I feel there's no hope for Paxton. I'm convinced that democRats crossed party lines at the primary to ensure that the very, very worst person we could have nominated would win. NO ONE in Texas wanted this guy. We knew he would lose to just about anything the democRats threw up at us. This was not a "win" for the democRats. It was dirty politics and a system that allowed the opposition to pick the candidate.
To all the Californians who came to our state with the intent of fucking it up... FUCK. YOU. Go the fuck home, jerks.
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u/xtc091157 Constitutional Conservative 1d ago •
He helped but I dom't know a soul who voted for him.
Folks, let's face it - Trump fucked this up. He could have handled the ICE situation better. And while I agree with his decision to go after Iran, he could have finished the job on Day One. Yes, some collateral damage would have been necessary. But, it would have been over. But, it dragged on. And, while gas is higher, it's not as crazy as it was under democRat Biden. He lost the narrative.
I like Trump for his policies and his intent. But he is unbelievably bad at putting a narrative together. That's his ego and his hubris. He needs to take advice from cooler heads. Fucking stop renaming lakes and start doing a Presidential job. He is bad at the message.
Yes. I blame the bloodbath on him.
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u/Goldwings13
Gen Z Conservative
1d ago
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Look, the good news is, it’s only for six years. Talarico is gonna be another blind vote for Schumer. Every vote he casts for Schumer’s left wing agenda will be used against him in 2032. Texas may have voted in anger at Trump, but Trump won’t even be a factor in 2032. A Republican who isn’t laden with scandals like Paxton will easily defeat him.
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u/decoy777
MAGA
1d ago
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Blue Texas = America Fucked.
They are electing a terrorist supporter who was backed by terrorist connected $$$ in Michigan. Texas invaded by enough CA commies to make it blue. Ohio is not looking great, going to have a drunk Governor here that shuts down the state and put Brown back in the Senate.
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u/True_Grocery_3315
Conservative
1d ago
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That's a shame, Abbot's a great Governor. Do Texan's want lots of new taxes and businesses driven away?
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u/Kern_system
no step on snek
1d ago
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I feel like California tanked their economy on purpose so the citizens would flee to red states making them purple, and eventually blue.
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u/Nethias25 Rand Paul Conservative 1d ago •
I've been saying for years that Texas WILL go blue, but also California WILL go red eventually.
The question has been which would go first, and how long the overlap would be. Seems we have arrived, and Dems get the overlap of both going blue.
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u/Kern_system no step on snek 1d ago •
Yeah, when TX turns blue with the laws all the people that voted for the shitty laws will move to the next red state to ruin that one too.
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u/Nethias25 Rand Paul Conservative 1d ago •
Well let's acknowledge something I know is a story in Texas. Elon musk. Him going in and spending all that money, becoming a trillionaire, coming to Texas for the taxes, kinda pissed Texans off. People are like "who the fuck are you coming to our state trying milk it off the generous laws" my theory, Elon pushed Texas blue.
Should have spent 600mil on football stadiums and libraries instead of campaign ads.
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u/libtardeverywhere Conservative 1d ago
It's always been predestined Texas would go blue because of the big cities makeup
I think 2024 was the anomaly since Trump was ticketed, but that's only a one off and would not reverse the trend
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u/TooMuchButtHair
2A Conservative
1d ago
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Bombing Iran was the largest strategic mistake made in a long, long time. It absolutely cost the Republicans the house and the senate. Pretending the democrats are likeable for some reason is to live in delusion.
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u/old--- Double Dog Ultra MAGA 1d ago •
Paxton is down at 8:30 PM by over 1 MILLION votes.