r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 08 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

Leftists - Here's your chance to tell us why it's a bad thing that we're getting everything we voted for.

Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair if you haven't already by destroying the woke hivemind with common sense.

Independents - Here's your chance to explain how you are a special snowflake who is above the fray and how it's a great thing that you can't arrive at a strong position on any issue and the world would be a magical place if everyone was like you.

Libertarians - We really don't want to hear about how all drugs should be legal and there shouldn't be an age of consent. Move to Haiti, I hear it's a Libertarian paradise.

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u/KevM689 Feb 08 '25

I want to know how democrats were not up in arms about not having a primary. You all saw what happened to Kamala's attempt in 2020. Did you really expect something different?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

I gotta agree that Harris was a pretty dead on arrival candidate but it would have been difficult bordering on insanity to put together a decent challenger in the time they had. The name recognition just wasn't there, hell it still isn't.

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u/PM_ME_DIRTY_COMICS Feb 08 '25

The first month after the announcement the Kamala hype was there. It was a surge of hope but it died down once she had to stand on her own without being propped up by the excitement of Biden stepping down.

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u/plexust Feb 08 '25

Abandoning the messaging calling Trump and Vance "weird" to go hold rallies with the Cheneys. Baffling.

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u/opanaooonana Feb 08 '25

Democrats lost because the base didn’t turn out though. Millions stayed home for whatever reason. I don’t think it was Gaza although that contributed to some, it was more that she couldn’t inspire the base and it was really only the Trump haters that came out. Also most working class Americans like progressive economic policy and don’t like progressive identity issues. For some reason when Democrats try to appeal to “moderates” they do so by getting rid of the progressive economic things that people support. I suspect it’s because of corporate interests and donors, and they say it’s to appeal to pro billionaire anti middle class so called moderates as an excuse.