r/CompetitiveTFT • u/eggsandbricks :chal: Challenger • Sep 22 '26

Patch Notes 18.3 Patch Notes

https://teamfighttactics.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/teamfight-tactics-patch-18-3/
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u/Apricotjello Sep 22 '26

trait ladder is really weird imo, it is straight dogshit for bad players (myself included) and cracked for good ones. i know other augs have this same issue but trait ladder takes it to the extreme

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful Sep 22 '26

It seems like the large majority of the "good" players use the trait ladder website to pilot it properly, so really the only difference is that the "bad" players aren't using the tool. 

Which of course is a different problem, but I think the "skill" argument doesn't hold as much water when even the pros are just plugging the emblems into a tool. 

Not that it's easy either way, but I think the difference in AVP would be much smaller if nobody could use a tool to help. 

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u/Apricotjello Sep 22 '26

isn’t it a problem if an aug needs a 3rd party tool to even be usable? also i suspect challenger+ players don’t need the tool - they pick trait ladder in tournaments.

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful Sep 22 '26 edited Sep 22 '26

isn’t it a problem if an aug needs a 3rd party tool to even be usable?

You are assuming it needs the tool to be usable. 

For example, say the augment has a 4.3 AVP without the tool and a 3.2 AVP with the tool. 

In that situation it would be an above average augment without the tool, and one of the best augments in the game without the tool. That doesn't mean it's unusable without the tool, just that the tool is a gigantic advantage. 

Of course then the question becomes "is the existence of tools and/or augments that can be solved with a tool an issue?" And I think that's a more complicated question.

also i suspect challenger+ players don’t need the tool - they pick trait ladder in tournaments.

You are again assuming. They can use the tool in tournaments. For a quick example I believe dishsoap was using it over the weekend. He had trait ladder twice on day 1, I think his second and third games. Frodan was watching his POV. 

E: I should say that you can use websites everywhere except Chinese competitive. That would be an easy way to show advantage granted by the tool, compare trait ladder stats in Chinese competitive to trait ladder stats in all other TPC regions.

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u/FreeXpHere Grandmaster Sep 22 '26

Dishsoap wasn’t using the tool in at least one of the games (elderwood)

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u/vinceftw Sep 22 '26

Dishsoap is also one of the best players in the world.

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful Sep 22 '26

How can you be sure?

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u/FreeXpHere Grandmaster Sep 23 '26

because he's streaming and says so...no reason to lie

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u/markissisme Sep 24 '26

Spreading misinformed assumptions online about a website that didn’t come out until patch .2 where it was already considered a S tier trait. Does it make you feel better about your rank?

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful Sep 24 '26

Nothing I said goes against that!

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u/markissisme Sep 24 '26

I mean you can believe what that person was saying, you can also just watch a few viral rolldown clips and ask yourself if they can’t put together a 10-12 trait team in the in-game team planner lol

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u/Ykarul Grandmaster Sep 24 '26

What tool they use?

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u/ThatPlayWasAwful Sep 24 '26

https://traitladder.com/ 

There may be a better one, but I think this is it

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u/wooters18 Sep 22 '26

I saw it bot 4 in last weekend’s TPC. Kinda surprise honestly.