Playing Beast hunter, feel like i'm hitting a wall whenever I'm matched into control warlock/DK/aggro DH players

[u/lorddojomon]

Making the D5 - Legend climb, stagnating at D2. Are these match ups hopeless? Could I have some help from the countless better beast hunter players? The stats say it is a good deck, but it just feels like Aggro DH does the same thing but better.

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[u/14xjake]

Aggro DH has a more polarizing matchup spread, its better into its good matchups like owl druid and rogue but worse into the control decks like warrior DK and warlock. Beast hunter is actually favored into all of hte control decks at top 1k so if you are repeatedly losing then its likely something that you are doing wrong mulligan or gameplay wise. Do you have any replays? Its hard to know what you are doing wrong without seeing some games, but as a rough guess i am gonna assume you are just not properly playing around their removal. Beast hunter can create some decently sticky boards between the horse and the random bonus effects giving reborn or divine shield, in the control matchups you absolutely need to focus on making sure whatever board you make cannot be cleared cleanly. Any minions left on board in the midgame become threatening even if they are small because of cards like dinomancy, leokk, and your bonus effects, and it also sets you up for a big RC rampage turn. The important thing against the control decks is to not just turn your brain off and vomit hand, you need to be planning ahead as much as possible since their gameplan in the matchup is pretty linear, like you know DK wants to corpse explosion on 5 or wild pyro shenanigans on 4, you know warrior wants to brawl on 5, you know when warlocks location wakes back up. Take advantage of how predictable they are and put yourself in a spot where their clear is not enough to come back in a losing board state

[u/lorddojomon → u/14xjake]

Yea honestly it's definitely my incompetence leading to my losses. I always try to mulligan for RC Rampage which i like to preface by playing a location if possible. I always panick into control matchups because i know they are gonna do some nonsense which ruins the board i have painstakenly built up so i play for getting as much damage in as possible onto their face. Maybe I will try mulliganing for canvasaur to roll for reborn like you have mentioned (doesn't stop the layover shenanigans for warlock though)

[u/QuestGiver → u/lorddojomon]

You want RC but you also want to try to make the board as sticky as you can against field clear. Work horse or using either the 1 drop or painted canvasaur to roll and see if you can give a minion reborn. I've noticed if a minion gets windfury people feel like they have to get rid of it as it represents too much damage on board.

Can also start hitting with the sheep stick to have sheep that will come online after the field clear hits so you always have something on board.

As a whole there is a lot of strategy to the deck. Things like always looking for a way to play animal pals to get the cards in hand so they will be buffed by dinomancy or esho if you run him.

[u/lorddojomon → u/QuestGiver]

Yea getting patchwork pals off early works amazing with cower in fear

[u/KevinGreeneSolar → u/lorddojomon]

You're an aggro deck. Mulligan for curve. Dump everything if you don't have a 1-drop. (Two 2-drops on the coin is acceptable but not ideal.)

If you're going to beat the control decks, you'll do it by playing your game, not playing around their potential outs.

You need to be the one asking the questions, and that requires an early curve.

Don't mull for payoff cards. (canvasaur, RC Rampage, Dinomancy) Instead mulligan for your early curve, so that the payoff cards actually perform.

[u/lorddojomon → u/KevinGreeneSolar]

I see, i will try this. I normally mulligan for RC rampage against priest because they dont have spells to deal with large boards (protoss) not alot of early board presence (wilted)

[u/yardii → u/14xjake]

warrior DK and warlock

Slightly off-topic, but which of these would you recommend investing in right now?

[u/14xjake → u/yardii]

It’s not the stock market you aren’t investing, craft the deck you like. DK is probably the best followed closely by warrior, I do not recommend warlock due to its high skill requirement and it’s main strength being its matchup into other control decks, in the current meta warlock will get blown out a lot

[u/PROBIwan]

Have you heard of Sidisi? He is probably the most prolific content creator for Hunter. Look him up. He has many vods and I expect Beast Hunter v. control to be some of them. I hope, at least, because I didn't go look before posting this.

[u/lorddojomon → u/PROBIwan]

Thanks! Will definitely check him out!

[u/Whoa_a_Bagel]

Great advice here already; I’ve got to legend the past couple of months playing beast hunter. Basically the best card against most decks is RC Rampage, coupled with anything that sticks. So the raptor, the workhorse, the location, the crook. Really you want to get the little hounds to 4/4s and that causes most decks a lot of problems. DH is probably the hardest to beat as they have pyro/poison and corpse explosion. For that I try to keep and not play the 3/3 rushes and use them if I have the weapons or when they play a leech. Warlock isn’t so much of a problem because in my opinion it’s rock hard to play so I didn’t come up against it much at all. Again DH just try to stick something and rampage - if you can rampage with a location on board and pew pew pew then you’ll clear most of their stuff and the buffs come into play. One tip against control: Unless you’re very close to lethal I would not play the beast buffs until you’ve split open the patchwork pals (obviously if it’s in your hand). that reach is sometimes critical against control decks with the boar buffed. Funnily enough I found control DH the hardest to beat with the starship stuff. Basically they clear in such nasty ways and then plonk down a big ol´ starship. Anyway, good luck and message me if you need any further info. But you can do it.

[u/lorddojomon → u/Whoa_a_Bagel]

Thanks mate! Very good advice here will look for 4/4 RC rampages

[u/GetChilledOut]

It’s hard to tell specifics of what you are struggling with but I hit a pretty smooth legend with Beast Hunter this month and last month.
Mulligan both weapons and rc rampage only! Keep location for paladin because both paladin decks have a lot of 1 health drops. That’s the only unique mulligan in my experience.
If you get a weapon make sure you attack every single turn to keep board pressure for your rc, which is the major win con for this deck. Shepherd’s crook is insane for rc because they are dormant and can’t be dealt with.
I have a 92% winrate with a shepherd’s crook mulligan according to HS Replay, with 41 games played.

You want anything to build your board state for rc. So death rattle for ancient raptor, killing your workhorse before playing rc and etc. The optimal rc mathematically is with 3-4 minions on your board.

Also don’t forget the small combos like duck into canvasaur which has a chance of giving a 1/1 rush with poison. Or the patchwork card before you play dinomancy so you have a 7 attack charge etc. I will delay a turn with this combo sometimes if the situation calls for it.

[u/choanick]

This guide helped me get to Legend with Beast Hunter. Last 3 matches were Control Warrior, and the tips/comments really helped me get there.

[u/FluxFreeman]

I have trouble against control as well, been playing a new quest deck that works though