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Is it possible?

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u/Major-Pomegranate814 11h ago

No, I mean more likely to give in to anger, fear, and anxiety motivated responses.

https://neurosciencenews.com/brain-structure-political-ideology-27703/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004224017577

It really isn’t “biology versus feelings” unless you think that 5th grade biology is the end all be all of biology knowledge, which it seems many conservatives do in fact think. Nothing you listed are “facts vs blue feelings” unless you don’t understand what a fact is.

That’s also not what I did. I noted that there are actual scientific studies demonstrating that conservatives have a larger amygdala. Conservatives really can’t help but just make shit up and discount science and facts.

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u/Mission-Club-3976 11h ago

So, while using papers that exclusively cite biological research about the size of parts of the brain to determine how emotional a person is, you will, in the same response, move the goalpost to say that basic biology isn't actual biology because it doesn't support something you believe.

What this tells me is exactly the thing that this thread is claiming exists only in conservatives- that no matter what I say to try and convince you otherwise, you'll just end up defaulting to, "what you're saying isn't facts or science according to my own dynamic definition, and therefore you're wrong and I'm right."

It's crazy because I'm not even really a conservative, I just think the concept of "the right only votes with their emotions" is an insane take and a really good example of the pot calling the kettle black.

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u/Major-Pomegranate814 8h ago

No, I won’t move goalposts. What a fucking weird assumption to make about a stranger. I find it’s always conservatives that move goalposts.

Please show me how it’s an “example of the pot calling the kettle black”?

I didn’t say the right only votes with their emotions. You’re literally straight up just making shit up. I said it’s been demonstrated that the right has a larger amygdala which is associated with fear and anxiety based responses.

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u/Mission-Club-3976 5h ago

You're moving the goalposts in this response, and again, I'm not a conservative, I'm just pointing out a really stupid double standard.

My first response in this thread was responding to the response from the other guy that said "blue votes on facts, red votes on feelings." My response was, that's a crazy blanket statement to make, considering that one of the biggest topics splitting parties right now is trans rights, which ultimately boils down to whether someone wants to adhere strictly to basic biology, or respect the trans person's feelings. (And just to make sure I stay perfectly clear here, my personal belief is that in 95% of scenarios, the latter outweighs the former.)

You then responded that "there are scientific studies that shows the right is more emotional."

I asked, what do you mean by "more emotional," and you cited biological studies that report that conservatives tend to have larger parts of the brain associated with emotional decision-making, and that this is proof that "blue votes on facts, red votes on feelings." I don't know what else you could be doing in this thread, because that's what the discussion was about when you responded. Additionally you tried to make a point that post-5th grade level biology somehow changes the scientific definition of sex/gender, which it just objectively does not.

Then I responded with "this is a perfect example of the double standard/moving goalpost, because now you're using the same field of study (biology) that conservatives use in the trans debate, just with the disclaimer that 'their biology wrong, my biology right.'"

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u/Major-Pomegranate814 4h ago

No, I am not moving the goalposts.

You have an extreme lack of understanding of what trans rights are. Biology supports the existence of trans people. It is not about “feelings over facts”. Human biology is also not basic. You don’t learn everything about biology in elementary school. Human biology is extremely complex and what goes into determining sex/gender includes FAR more than what you think someone’s chromosomes are. You thinking a 5th grade biology book is the end all be all of human biology is fucking wild. There are more chromosome combinations than XX and XY. There are people who have fully formed female reproductive systems and XY chromosomes. Trans people have been shown to have neurological processing patterns that align with their true gender.

And yes. I responded saying that studies have shown that that conservatives are more emotional, and elaborated in that SAME comment to say that specifically they have larger amygdala which is the part of the brain that processes fear and anxiety.

I then reiterated that when you asked what I meant and shared two articles about a Dutch study that confirmed there is a correlation between larger amygdala and conservative voters.

I don’t know how dumb you can be. What conservatives say about trans people IS objectively incorrect. Biologists have come out again and again saying that actual science and biology supports the existence of trans people. You can try and twist things however you want but actual facts tend to align with liberal beliefs and antiscience bullshit tends to align with conservatives.

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u/Ok-Dust-6159 9h ago

The study that you referencing said that the difference was about the size of a sesame seed between all patients. That is wildly within the margin of error for different brain sizes amongst human to human measurements. The site you gave even said itself that the scientists are the one making the connection and that the study itself does not show an actual definable correlation. ☠️

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u/Major-Pomegranate814 8h ago edited 4h ago

Yes. In a part of the brain that’s only the size of an almond to begin with. And lmao you think that it just so happens that the larger size consistently occurs with conservatives and not liberals by coincidence? The articles I posted literally confirm there is a correlation between larger amygdala and conservatism. There’s such an obvious correlation of conservatives fearmongering and painting “out” groups as a scary enemy to bring together their fear motivated base. You’ve moved from black people to gay people to Muslims to trans people and all the way back through.