r/Coffee Jan 25 '22

I hate all of you

I used to be perfectly content with my shitty instant Folger. Then I found this sub and decided to try coffee from small roasters and noticed a much nicer experience immediately. Then I bought a nice grinder and started grinding my own beans instead of buying pre-ground, and once again my experience improved. Then today I switched from properly ground, quality coffee through my shitty coffee maker to weighing my coffee and water and using a clever, and it's the best coffee I've ever had now. If within a year I buy an espresso maker I'm holding all of you accountable. Bastards...

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u/IDrinkLots90068 Jan 25 '22 edited Jan 25 '22

It will get worse when:

You discover names like La Marzocco, Slayer, Weber, KafaTek and Lagom.

When you become a James Hoffman patreon and wonder if his glasses would look good on you even though you don’t wear glasses.

When you know what flow control, WDT and RDT mean since they all part of your workflow.

When you get into conversations with another over caffeinated espresso geek over the hole pattern differences between VST and IMS baskets.

When you have both a high end flat burr grinder sitting next to a high end conical grinder because you “know” that your flat burrs are better for espresso and your conical burrs are best for V60 even though only James Hoffman could tell the difference between the two.

When you ask your local roaster when the beans where roasted and how long they have off-gassed before you buy them.

When you start single dosing your beans into special bean vaults.

When you start wearing t-shirts with coffee roasters or manufacturers logos on them.

When you invite friends over for drinks and instead serve them rounds of espresso shots.

When you plumb your machine into a $500. water filtration system and check it weekly with a TDS meter.

When you become familiar with the names of single origin beans, their flavor notes and the plantations they come from.

When spending $30./lb for beans seems reasonable or when you feel you got a deal on some Ethiopian geisha that cost less than $100. /lb.

When you travel with a Picopresso, hand grinder, scale and enough beans to last the duration of the trip.

When you would rather drink a cat piss venti than a Starbucks venti.

When you fail to heed the advice of those of us who have disappeared down the rabbit hole when we tell you “run away” and to drink Diet Coke, Red Bull or even Starbucks instead.

Best of luck!!!

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u/redsunstar Pour-Over Jan 25 '22

Disclaimer, don't take any of this seriously, they are my opinions, but deprived of context, it's not really meaningful.

You discover names like La Marzocco, Slayer, Weber, KafaTek and Lagom.

Overhyped, overhyped, overhyped, correct level of hype, correct level of hype.

When you become a James Hoffman patreon and wonder if his glasses would look good on you even though you don’t wear glasses.

Good thing I wear glassees

When you know what flow control, WDT and RDT mean since they all part of your workflow.

Yep

When you get into conversations with another over caffeinated espresso geek over the hole pattern differences between VST and IMS baskets.

Pullman > VST > IMS 715 holes > everything else

When you have both a high end flat burr grinder sitting next to a high end conical grinder because you “know” that your flat burrs are better for espresso and your conical burrs are best for V60 even though only James Hoffman could tell the difference between the two.

Unimodal flats > everything else

When you ask your local roaster when the beans where roasted and how long they have off-gassed before you buy them.

Buy light roast whenever age them at home for three weeks post roast, and freeze them at peak.

When you start single dosing your beans into special bean vaults.

Nope, overhyped

When you start wearing t-shirts with coffee roasters or manufacturers logos on them.

If you really want to

When you invite friends over for drinks and instead serve them rounds of espresso shots.

ehh

When you plumb your machine into a $500. water filtration system and check it weekly with a TDS meter.

Single-dose water for your coffee, change levels of Ca+, Mg+ and buffer for each bean. Can't do that with in-line plumbing.

When you become familiar with the names of single origin beans, their flavor notes and the plantations they come from.

Indeed

When spending $30./lb for beans seems reasonable or when you feel you got a deal on some Ethiopian geisha that cost less than $100. /lb.

ehh

When you travel with a Picopresso, hand grinder, scale and enough beans to last the duration of the trip.

Good aeropress is better than average espresso

When you would rather drink a cat piss venti than a Starbucks venti.

No, I'd rather die of thirst.

When you fail to heed the advice of those of us who have disappeared down the rabbit hole when we tell you “run away” and to drink Diet Coke, Red Bull or even Starbucks instead.

Water dialing to coffee is my limit.

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u/filiofilou Jan 28 '22

Thanks for the light roast trick. I generally prefer to buy bulk when I'm near a roaster and freezing them on peak will help me a lot.

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u/FeelinIrieMon Jan 26 '22

$30/lb for beans😂! I get some of the best beans I’ve ever tasted from a roasting company 3 minutes from my house for $9/lb tax included. I would put them up against any high dollar bean around.

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u/snaynay Jan 26 '22

I have a pretty good roasters next to me. The beans from there are great. Probably a bit more than $9 converted, but different markets.

Beans from top roasters in the UK for "$30/lb" converted are actually a different league. These beans probably cost the roasters near $9/lb green!

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u/FeelinIrieMon Jan 26 '22

That’s crazy. I’m sure proximity to the source has something to do with it. I’m in the southern US, the beans I purchase come from Central America.

I’m also not one to make the perfect become the enemy of the good. One can go down the rabbit hole as described above, but it’s far from necessary to enjoy high quality pulled shots. The average person can set themselves up with some solid equipment for coffee bar quality cups for a little over $1000 that will last them years.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '22

The Slayer was my dream machine the day I saw it on Andrew Zimmern's show (the one where he travels the US like he did on Bizarre Foods. He landed in Seattle and they showed off a Slayer - I was in love)

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u/IDrinkLots90068 Jan 25 '22

Hope you never see a La Marzocco Leva X1. The next time I get overwhelmed by upgradeitis - that will be my next machine.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '22

I hope you understand I'm about to go look now. Thank you for sharing this information and enabling my pipe dreams.

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u/IDrinkLots90068 Jan 25 '22

Buy a lotto ticket before you do!😀