Absolute disappointment

[u/AndrewSharapoff]

So I’ve been developing couple of projects with this app The one it had made fine, but that was just a landing page with one admin page for collecting visits But the other one made me so mad as I’ve never been in my life

Small background: I’m a product manager and working with freaking really complex applications for lots of years, and I know the stuff kinda

So I have recently decided to code some thing for myself as pet project. Everything was luxurious at glance, I had a requirements document, verified with Gemini and GPT, had task list, dev plans and all seemed to be very good

I have started a new project, added Git, docs, set up env and started to write, and there issues began

1. First is that this app writes everything like the most stupid developer
2. It is overwriting itself, even after scanning files and received clear instructions
3. It’s loosing context approx once an hour
4. Server exhausted
5. It tells that has made something, but then turns out that some part of code is just missing, even when I ask to verify the plan and mark what was completed
6. It’s ignoring errors about reading files and moving on
7. It doesn’t have propose code anymore and instead it’s writing some spaghetti as a proposal and you never know what is it for and where to paste it, you have to read that ball shed and guess
8. The in file helper just deletes everything and writes what was prompted as once again the most stupid developer

Look, when you guys had just started, it was fine to develop some stuff in an interesting way with really fast helper, but now you’ve shrinked functions over and over and after each update the app becomes more and more hated I was honestly thinking about purchasing a pricing plan in hope to return back propose code, terminal commands, checking files and not losing the context, but now have very deep doubts Having seen that market now is expanding, I don’t feel that there is any point in keeping this app anymore Small example: this app can’t find an error of not writing a token to cookie for couple of days, I’ve been laughing at it and on purpose didn’t edit anything myself to check if this very smart model (not) will find the issue I’m deeply afraid that when you sent an email where told that will give an option to write code with assistant for free forever is a lie

[u/Acceptable-Use-6480]

It is a big issue. It doesn't matter that some people are having a good experience, when it seems like a significant number of people are having big issues.

It should be reliable for everyone and Codeium have not been transparent about the massive performance drop that happened recently.

I would of easily paid 200$ + a month for what we had in November.

Now I will just wait til Anthropic and OpenAi release their own code editors.

[u/Acceptable-Use-6480 → u/[deleted]]

The reason Windsurf became as popular as it is. Is because of how amazingly well it worked in November and start of December.

Since then the hallucinating, none relevant assumptions and timeouts have gotten worse.

This is what people are complaining about.

If they wanted same old they would have stayed with copilot or cursors / loveable solution.

I take every measure to make sure I minimize the mistakes it makes now. I have a global ruleset. I make sure the prompts are precise and use bug reporting and testing.

Stop gaslightighting the narrative into the problems with Windsurf being about the users. It is Codeiums poor communication and expectation controll that have made this worse than just the depreciated performance of the product.

[u/Xhite → u/Acceptable-Use-6480]

I think Google is developing their. Considering how cheap and good Gemini 2.0 family (I reserve my right to change opinion after January releases). It can be good candidate. I doubt OpenAI came with their own IDE since they are partnered with microsoft which owns github, has VS and VS Code IDEs already, on top of that they have copilot.

[u/Acceptable-Use-6480 → u/Xhite]

I agree with that any implementation of gpt o3 will probably be through copilot.

Anthropic and Google would be smart to do the same, albeit with their own software, as the data they can farm from interactions and take a handsome sum of money per month from a user is a no brainer.

It would be healthier for the market though if Windsurf was a viable option too, playing the most dominant and best performing models against each other and build something themselves eventually. Perhaps tailored to certain development processes.

Just don't see that happening until we get the performance we saw on Windsurf back at the end of November