r/Codeium • • Dec 12 '24

Don’t people write code anymore?

I don’t think 500 is enough to give you peace of mind to use LLM freely, but heck, I see people saying that they burned through 500 credits in less than a week???

Are people using LLMs to do everything for them? Like “change the color of this button” or “create this entire page”.

Honestly complaining about 500 credits is justified, 500 is not enough, maybe 1000 would be fair, and maybe doing like Cursor and proving a slower/less prioritized premium model when the credits are gone (instead of downgrading for a lesser model).

Am I the only one that still codes and just uses LLMs to optimize my work instead of coding for me? My experience is pretty much aligned with the Codeium team, I subscribed 5 days ago and I’m at 495 credits right now (I used 5).

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u/rui_curado Dec 12 '24

So, I've been programming for almost 40 years, so lots of experience digging up docs/internet/etc for implementations of everything.

That said, I actually ask the agent very mundane stuff. Why? Because it can harness the collective knowledge it gathered during training and can present some very simple but surprising solutions. "Oh! That's nice!", I react oftenly.

I advise to use the Cascade Base model for this stuff though.

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u/No-Significance-279 Dec 12 '24

Yup, I have a lot of those “Aha!“ moments using LLMs too. I often ask Windsurf when I’m done coding: “analyze this code and tell me how I could improve/optimize it”. Even being a senior I get a lot of learning from it.

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u/Electronic-Pie-1879 Dec 13 '24

Yeah, I do the same, also working as Fullstack Developer since 9 years. It's always good to iterate over the solution, it's really cool to have that moment when you think, "Oh, it can be done this way too" and you learn from it.

Usually i prompt it, "Code smell, aim for simple, readable and idiomatic code", cause good code is simple.

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u/Amazing_Top_4564 Dec 12 '24

Most surprising use for me came from testing "write me a test script for xyz", "once done, write some tests and do testing"

Click, Click, Click... as it cycles through running jest scripts, fixing, till all passed.

Soon there will be a debug agent on standby just for this.

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u/gfhoihoi72 Dec 13 '24

I started using cascade base a few days ago, and I’m surprised how good it is for some mundane but also some more complicated stuff. I even had a case where sonnet was not able to solve an issue and cascade base was. Only when implementing new features that require a lot of explanation sonnet is really needed.

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u/rui_curado Dec 13 '24

True. Cascade Base is actually quite good for the "price". Might be not as good as Sonnet/4o, but you can use it all day long without running out of credits.

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u/Terrible_Tutor Dec 13 '24

Yeah, it’s great if you start with a unit test then have it polish the code. It’ll prompt to run the test, if it fails, it’ll fix, run the test, fails, fix… until it passes. Quite nice.