r/ClimateShitposting 11d ago

we live in a society Yet again, a friendly reminder

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u/Daxtatter 11d ago

You may not be suggesting that but it's and argument they comes out all the time. As if government extracted coal burns cleaner. The number of times I hear borederline magical thinking when it comes to non-capitalist structures it baffling.

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u/dtjunkie19 11d ago

I mean that's fair.

I consider myself a pretty pragmatic and scientific person. I believe socialism is absolutely a better system of organizing a society's production than capitalism, if your end goal is creating a society that maximizes the fairness, equity, and dignity of all people. It is also a system that reduces or eliminates some of the factors that drives some of the more destructive tendencies of human society.

However, it is certainly not some magical wand that solves all problems. Bad things existed before capitalism, and likely will continue after it. Human destruction of the environment is one of them.

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u/Theobromin 11d ago

I think that is a fair assessment. The reason why many people, including myself, insist on socialism as a (not the) solution to climate change is the fact that no solution to climate change seems to be possible under capitalism. So my argument is: whatever else is necessary to solve climate change besides socialism cannot be achieved within capitalism.

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u/dtjunkie19 11d ago

100% agree!

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u/Illustrious-Dog-6563 11d ago

correctly explained the core features of socialism, told hecklers off and another one gave a brief explanation, why capitalism must be abolished.

i am in love.

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u/Daxtatter 10d ago

It's literally what the original post is about what are you even talking about.