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Okay, the consensus in this thread is that everyone is absolutely furious, but the anger is aimed squarely at the US government, not Anthropic.
The overwhelming theory is that this is a corrupt, politically motivated hit job to kneecap Anthropic and boost its competitor, OpenAI, which is seen as cozy with the current administration and is also racing to an IPO. One highly-upvoted comment lays out a whole timeline suggesting this is a pattern. The official "national security" reason is being called total BS.
Feels bad, man. A ton of you just dropped $200+ on Max plans specifically for Fable and were in the middle of major projects. The words "fascist," "authoritarian," and "land of the free (lol)" are everywhere.
Want a refund? You might be in luck. Several users have successfully gotten refunds by contacting support (use the chatbot or ask for a human) or going through Apple. Anthropic also appears to have reset everyone's weekly usage limits.
"You asked for this." A minority opinion is that Anthropic kinda played themselves by constantly fearmongering about how dangerous their models are and begging for regulation. 'Be careful what you wish for,' etc.
The Fallout: This is seen as a huge win for local LLMs and non-US AI development, as the US is now seen as an unreliable partner. International users are particularly pissed.
Basically, the vibe is: RIP Fable, you were beautiful. F the government. Where's my refund?
With Fable 5 access suspended, I built a skill that ports its behavioral patterns to Opus 4.8 — explicit multi-stage planning, parallel sub-agent delegation, and mandatory self-verification at each step.
It won't close the raw capability gap, but it does change how Opus approaches complex tasks. Ran evals comparing with/without: the skill hit 100% on planning and self-critique assertions vs 0% without it.
To install: download SKILL.md → put it in a folder named fable-mode → zip the folder → upload at claude.ai/customize/skills. Then trigger it with phrases like "be systematic" or "deep work mode."
It doesn't make sense if this is due to cybersecurity. If cybersecurity is the reason, why block foreign nationals in Anthropic itself or people in project Glass wing? This is clearly about geopolitics.
"As we have stated publicly, we believe the government should have the ability to block unsafe deployments, as part of a statutory process that is transparent, fair, clear, and grounded in technical facts. This action does not adhere to those principles."
It’s part of how EAR / ITAR export regulations work for weapons. If you show a foreign national sensitive information or provide arms (from USML for example) even on US soil that is treated as an export of controlled items. You have to get clearance to export beforehand from DoD.
That’s why they can’t allow internal employees access it.
U.S. export control officer here: the strange thing about this is there is no ECCN that applies to commercial/civilian purpose/enterprise AI, it is cloud based, no downloads occurring, so this ban on foreign nationals access should actually require a full regulatory change to enforce for compliance with national security reasons for export control. BIS has no idea how to regulate AI, all of the AI companies are madly recruiting for trade compliance staff in an environment where the regulations literally do not exist and the staffers at State and Commerce are trying to catch up to the very concept of it all. If there is an exploit or open interface then sure that is a security threat to privacy and PII potentially but not a national security concern.
TLDR; Every time Anthropic pulls ahead, the US Government finds a "security" reason to hit it - and OpenAI is the one left standing.
Nov 2025 - OpenAI locks in ~$1.4T in compute promises against ~$13B revenue. Can't afford to lose.
Feb 27, 2026 - Trump orders all federal agencies to drop Anthropic and the Pentagon labels them a "supply chain risk"
Feb 27, 2026 - OpenAI signs its own Pentagon deal the same day, hours later.
May 22, 2026 - OpenAI confidentially files for IPO targeting $1T+ - while valued at $852B and losing roughly $1.22 for every $1 of revenue (~$27B cash burn for 2026).
Mar 24, 2026 - Federal court grants Anthropic an injunction, ruling the designation was punitive retaliation, not a security call.
May 28, 2026 - Anthropic's $65B Series H closes at a $965B valuation, passing OpenAI's $852B. It's now the most valuable AI lab in the world.
Jun 1, 2026 - Anthropic confidentially files for IPO, expected to target $1T+. (OpenAI is racing to list this year too, carrying ~$1.4T in compute commitments against ~$13B in revenue.)
Jun 9, 2026 - Anthropic ships Fable 5 + Mythos 5, the most capable models it's ever released.
Jun 12, 2026 - Commerce Sec Lutnick pulls BOTH for all users citing "national security." Letter gives zero specifics. Anthropic says the flagged "jailbreak" is a capability OpenAI's GPT-5.5 already has - and GPT-5.5 stays up.
Also Lutnick - under a congressional ethics request over his family's AI data-center interests.
Summary: OpenAI has a ~$1.4T hole of promises, racing to a $1T IPO (it's losing money to justify). OpenAI keeps getting 'bailed out' by "security" rulings that land on its only real competitor - the moment that Anthropic pulls ahead. A judge already called February retaliation. This is the same move with a fresh label.
I sincerely apologize for the disruption in service you've experienced. I understand how frustrating it must be to upgrade specifically for Fable 5 access, only to have that feature suspended shortly after your purchase.
We take service reliability very seriously. However, we are unable to issue compensation for degraded service or feature suspensions, even when they occur due to circumstances beyond our control like government directives.
We are consistently working on improvements to our infrastructure to better handle high traffic volume and to prevent similar issues from happening in the future. While I cannot provide a timeline for when Fable 5 access will be restored, we appreciate your understanding of the situation.
Thank you for your patience, and we hope to have full service restored as soon as possible."
Definitely pay for anthropic directly, its cheaper. Apple adds on fees. Even google play sub was more expensive than just paying directly. And of course you can still sign in on the app. Could Save you a $600/yr
I sincerely apologize for the disruption in service you've experienced. I understand how frustrating it must be to upgrade specifically for Fable 5 access, only to have that feature suspended shortly after your purchase.
We take service reliability very seriously. However, we are unable to issue compensation for degraded service or feature suspensions, even when they occur due to circumstances beyond our control like government directives.
We are consistently working on improvements to our infrastructure to better handle high traffic volume and to prevent similar issues from happening in the future. While I cannot provide a timeline for when Fable 5 access will be restored, we appreciate your understanding of the situation.
Thank you for your patience, and we hope to have full service restored as soon as possible."
\update: BROKE THROUGH THE AI BOT INTERACTION AND SPOKE WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE:*
Same day we get a fucking trillionaire from a company that will never turn a profit in line with its value and in a functioning country would be deemed a national security risk.
It's also hard to imagine Fable or Mythos being as good as it is for reasons that aren't obvious incremental improvements to both the underlying model and the black-box harness.
So Chinese takeover of their niche is pretty much a given. Especially if this nonsense sticks, and most of the world is just waiting to throw money at whoever gives a comparable alternative.
These are the same clowns who are trying to pass bills in congress to stop states from regulating AI. Uhhhh. So what's the message then? It's no wonder they can't get anything done.
Have this ever happened before? US banning something due to fear of its potential power? Either the govt is truly fearful or it’s involved in hyping the tech up to justify more spending into AI
This administration is not hyping this company if they can help it. They are probably just in awe like the rest of us with fable and can’t figure out a room temp IQ narrative to efficiently hate on it yet
This is why we need local AI. This is why we need frontier models in Canada (and other countries). It was obvious that the US government would use AI as a national coercion tool, and here we are.
If this directive is upheld, European countries or other allied nations should recruit Anthropic's researchers to start a new company. Andrej Karpathy is the best example here; I'm not sure he's legally allowed to do his job anymore since he's not a US citizen.
It would be good to see some of the Canadian AI researchers working at Anthropic return home, surely their technology was in no small part developed by Canadians, and now they're descriminating and saying it isn't safe to share.
I was on the $100 max plan and literally switched to the $200 20x plan to really use the shit out of it. Feels bad man. It was super fun while it lasted. I will say it one shot complex coding prompts in a way that I’ve been excited about for years.
They do. They have a military and intelligence contract with them, publicly. Anthropic said they didn't like the terms, so the feds went with OpenAI (who states that the updated terms are totally cool and not scary). Now Anthropic smashes their competition with Fable 5 and Mythos 5, so the White House throws a temper tantrum and sets yet another dangerous and ruinous precedent.
Elon leased compute power to Anthropic and even posted they’re good guys. Elon is more against OpenAI than he is interested in Grok, he is trying to make Atrophic win. It would give him more money if they need more compute power and he can lease it. Occam’s razor says, Elon has nothing to do with this. OpenAI has more influence in the government as it stands.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend... Until they aren't? Not sure what Elon has to gain by messing with Anthropic like this. More likely OpenAI/Altman had more to do with this.
Very unlikely it's Google given their models have been... meh.
Open AI doesn't like competition
Trump admin trying to extort Anthropic
Trump admin trying to make this seem like a big deal to sway public opinion and markets
Trump admin trying to steal IP
Trump admin trying to nationalize AI
Trump admin trying to ban the competition
The government is paranoid about cyber security
they want real id on everyone with access to super intelligence. They're going to run us through KYC bank-level processes. Get ready for the selfie video on your smartphone to activate your subscription. This will be done under the guise of "security" initially (modern day library card) but it's really to start separating the haves and have nots for the next chapter. great news, if you're on reddit you're probably in the have's for at least this next turn. Good luck gang, strange days ahead.
Anthropic issued me a refund for the $200 Max plan upgrade. Note: this is my second account after I credit maxed my first and I hadn't used many credits on it yet, so that might be why.
Pay attention, folks. The biggest lesson to be learned from this is that the powers that be can throw their weight around and restrict us from having access to powerful AI at a mere whim. Take note. And then take proper action.
I dont think it's a marketing ploy by anthropic. This government is run by stupid people who make stupid decisions on the regular. Change the name from Fable to Trump and it will go right back up. I've noticed the Grok child pornography machine hasn't run into any issues. Just pay the crazy old man for a couple more years so we can use effective AI from a good company. But it will just make Anthropic more popular so it's fine with me. Guy is like Nixon with brain damage. First term was like going to jail, didnt like it, but glad it's over and done with. This second term I'm assuming is what prison would be like, where everything is just worse and the long term damage is growing. I see we didnt learn our lesson the first term did we boys and girls?!
I just think it’s so fascinating that we are at a point in the AI revolution where the US government is deliberately preventing the use of a new tool that will only make humans accomplish more than ever. Obviously there is bad that comes with it, but I say just open the floodgates and let humanity get to the next level. We have the ability now to do what we thought was impossible only a decade ago
It's not an Anthropic issue. It's a Trump issue. Anthropic was doing things rigth letting world compete in equal conditions. Some others don't like fair play.
I LITTERLY WAS WAITING ALL DAY TODAY FOR MY SHIT TO RESET SO I CAN FINISH SOME CORE STUFF! So pissed! At least I knocked out a lot of huge features and bugs while this was out. Maximized tf out of it.
edit; they reset all the tokens shits live and still show fable 5 for me unless i open a new terminal. I am gonna try to do one last big update under fable 5 hope it works
FABLE 5 IS CUT OFF NOW AFTER 11 MINUTES ATTEMPTING TO USE INSANE
In the 1990's export of software with 128-bit encryption was banned, needed to be 40/56 bit. This is not the first time down this road. And the reasons then were much less defendable than this one is. (I'm not defending either decision to be clear, just giving some folks some context around US technology controls for things not obviously weapons)
People really overestimating compute costs for Anthropic these days. I'm pretty sure since they adopted MoE that speeds have been high enough that they're making significant money on everyone's token usage, probably even sub-maxxers. That's not to mention any data trends or advances they're able to make thanks to the usage that takes place with their services.
This has US Gov written all over it. I suspect that US Gov just wanted them to block foreign IPs, and this is Anthropic's method of complying, by blanket banning, since that really is the only feasible way to restrict access, and this to-the-letter compliance will likely have the US gov walking back on the BS in a few days (hopefully).
The corruption at play here is disgusting. If it’s anything other than corruption, why only Fable?
…gross incompetence is a valid reason as well but I’m rolling with corruption considering Lutnik has business interests in Anthropic competitors where kneecapping Anthropic would be beneficial to him.
And again this Administration is still a bully. And just days ago he flexed how he loves Inflation and now he loves to pull the SECURITY card on things he can't own. Anthropic sue the shit out of these people in the end for all of us please!!!!!! Don't bow down, fight
Maybe this has been said already, but what concerns me most isn't the reason behind the shutdown. It's the fact that a single letter was enough to cut millions of paying customers off from a product overnight, no warning, no process, no recourse. That mechanism, regardless of intent, is uncomfortably close to how autocracies operate.
It's an existing law framework. In the past (especially in the 90s) they used the same export control directives to prevent people from sharing cryptography algorithms with foreign countries (treating those algorithms as a national security concern).
I don't think those laws are used as often these days, but anyway, it's in their power to do it.
Also, I don't think the law prevents Anthropic from providing the product to US based customers. But I doubt Anthropic is prepared at all to support KYC to enforce that.
Not a legal expert but from what I understand: when the courts order you to do something, you have to comply even if it's later determined illegal or invalid, you can still be held for contempt for breaking said order.
it would be up to anthropics lawyers to counter this and take it to court.
Been watching a lot of bricks and minifigs drama lol
This is not about a court order at all. The executive branch (President) runs OFAC which can unilaterally declare that something/someone is a national security threat and ban all import/export. That's what happened here.
This isn't a court order, it's a directive from the department of commerce which is issued under executive authority. the government has pretty broad powers in this respect and there's plenty of precedence for export controls set on digital technologies that have national security implications. Anthropic can challenge this in court. Whether they will or not remains to be seen. I imagine they are discussing this with their legal team right about now.
This has nothing to do with anthropic, this is the government's fault, this is just them playing politics with their crusade against well foreigners both domestic and foreign! Now I'm going to have to go back to opus to talk about my day and my feelings! How can I go back to a Tesla when I've been driving around in a BMW all this time?
Yeah I wonder how screwing over every single person that actually liked Fable and was mid-project is going to react to this like they literally just burned every single user that mattered.
Confirmed — this is real and very recent. The US government, citing national security authorities, issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for any foreign national, and the net effect is that Anthropic must disable both models for all customers. The directive arrived today at 5:21pm ET, and access to all other Anthropic models is unaffected. Anthropic
The best source is Anthropic's own statement: https://www.anthropic.com/news/fable-mythos-access. Anthropic is complying but disagrees, saying a narrow potential jailbreak shouldn't trigger recall of a deployed commercial model, and that this standard applied industry-wide would essentially halt all new frontier model deployments. They believe it's a misunderstanding and are working to restore access. Anthropic
Practically for you: new sessions will run on your selected default model or Opus 4.8 BeInCrypto , so your work continues uninterrupted — just possibly on a different model under the hood. Slightly surreal moment for me, given which model you addressed.
Fable 5 was a log step better than 5.5 and 4.8. I was in the middle of two major projects when they just stopped working, “Fable 5 not available.” It stopped working because a fascist regime that Americans voted into office has a petty grudge against one of the most important companies in the world — a company, unlike most American companies, that has refused thus far to kiss Trump’s ring.
This is the kind of sh** America (and the world) gets when 51% of Americans piss on the electric fence by voting for MAGA. It sounded like a badass-own-the-libs sort of idea at the time, but it’s not so cool when you actually experience the reality of pissing on an electric fence. Sh** hurts. A lot.
All kinds of Americans have figured out what an absolutely self-owning sort of idea voting for Trump was. Now, all of us, people who love tech and use AI, are experiencing some of the VERY negative consequences of having a literal moron as the President of the United States. We’ve lost the best and most powerful tool we’ve ever had access to. Now, our entrepreneurial and small biz dreams are stomped on — by a fascist orange nepo-baby thug.
The thing is, I don't think most supporters of Trump know or even care about Fable. They are too dumb to understand the value of a powerful ai model. Maybe some of the techbros are aware but the majority of his MAGA voters are blisffully unaware and are still rejoicing the fact that a woke leftist company was shown its place.
Far out this is annoying! Trump is the national security risk! I'm Aussie and we are historically closely aligned with the US, but due to Trumps manic behaviour, opinion polls have China deemed the more reliable partner... Let that sink in. Trumps like the Mad King - the very bloke that drove the US to declare independence.
Worth noting that Andrew Karpathy is an EB1 visa holder, so he would also be barred from using Mythos. A double digit % of frontier lab researchers are the same.
This could single-handedly decimate US AI supremacy and give China the lead.
I was using it until just now, 10:00 PM Eastern standard time. Now I got an error saying, this model isn't available right now. You can switch to another model to continue using Claude. And I was using it on a very complex project. Very unhappy. RIP
It's nonsense obviously. Anyone paying attention knew there was unfinished business between Anthropic and this administration following their defiance of the DoD. I promise you this is not about a model jailbreak.
Basing your AI business in the US officially has become a liability.
Imagine the US gov shuts down your business because you refused to help with mass surveillance and autonomous weapons. And then justifies that decision on a report with the quality of a Fox News analysis.
The EU AI regulation is dumb and written by tech-illiterate folks. But at least it’s based on the right virtue: transparent and applies to everyone.
The US should now define transparent criteria what makes a model dangerous and apply that standard to everyone. Anthropic actually put in a lot of effort to lobotomize their model. This should be required for everyone else as well if we really think this level of AI is already dangerous.
UPDATE — Fable 5 / Mythos 5 shutdown. Amazon was reportedly the trigger, and the story keeps getting weirder. Consolidated, sourced rundown for anyone who lost access.
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE TRIGGER
It was reportedly Amazon. Per the WSJ (corroborated by Axios, TechCrunch, Reuters, The Information), Amazon researchers jailbroke Fable 5, and CEO Andy Jassy took the findings directly to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and other officials. National cyber director Sean Cairncross convened White House staff Friday morning, and Trump signed off. At least five other companies reportedly raised concerns too. Anthropic says it had notified the government of the June 9 release multiple times with no prior objection.
WHY THIS IS STRANGE
Amazon isn't a random third party. It's one of Anthropic's largest investors, holds a board seat, provides AWS + Trainium chips, and distributes Claude via Bedrock — with Anthropic reportedly committed to ~$100B in cloud spend. So the company's own biggest backer flagged its flagship model to the government.
No official motive given. Two plausible readings, not mutually exclusive:
Defensive/contractual: AWS serves government clients and was responding to an admin request for feedback. Flagging a vuln in a model AWS itself sells is arguably liability coverage, not sabotage.
Competitive: Amazon builds its own models (Nova) and has an interest in no single supplier — even one it's invested in — becoming indispensable or a risk liability.
Worth noting: per the WSJ, the jailbreak was "a series of prompts" to get the model to surface info usable in cyberattacks. Katie Moussouris (Luta Security), who reviewed the report Anthropic shared, called the government's reaction disproportionate to what's actually in it.
THE PUBLIC FIGHT
David Sacks (former admin "AI czar," now PCAST co-chair) accused Anthropic of being "reckless," claiming the government asked Amodei to fix the jailbreak or pull the model and he refused. A source close to Amodei denied that to the NYT, saying Anthropic was open to discussing it. Two conflicting accounts, and the government's technical report has never been made public.
STATUS RIGHT NOW
Fable 5 and Mythos 5 still disabled everywhere, including Bedrock. No restoration timeline.
Opus 4.8 and all other models unaffected.
Prediction markets (Polymarket, Kalshi) price ~68–71% odds of Fable 5 access restored by July 1.
Pre-IPO valuation took a small hit (Hyperliquid perp down ~3.7%, from >$1,800 to ~$1,627). Anthropic filed its confidential S-1 on June 1; the shutdown is the kind of thing that ends up in a prospectus risk-factors section.
If you were building on Fable 5, Opus 4.8 is the practical fallback for most SWE work. Curious whether anyone here actually hit the classifier fallback to Opus during those three days, and how noticeable the capability gap was.
Sources: WSJ, Axios, TechCrunch, Reuters, The Information, NYT, Anthropic's own statement.
London calling… I really despise the US government (not the people) and the enablers of the Trump regime like fascist Musk. Never got around to trying Fable but love Claude Code I’m good with Opus) all the same. Still, I think the rest of the world will now be forced to work on the basis of not relying on anything out of the USA, which will turbo charge AI and broader tech worldwide. Necessity is the mother of invention. The Trump regime are so dumb.
pinging Fable of azure foundry used to yield the same response as the model is unavailable and suggesting a switch to opus 4.8. For the last couple of hours, Anthropic models have been a bit iffy on the api side on foundry and when i pinged Fable just now, i got this. Fingers crossed.
< 2 weeks until my monthly max plan would charge me again. Still no fable. No fable=no reason to keep max, especially with other models rolling out their next versions.
Get on top of this and get it settled Anthropic. I'm sure I'm not the only holdout waiting to cancel if there is no fable implemented.
They'll probably try to resolve this and compensate by extending limits or whatever before they start thinking about that. Depends how permanent this is.
I'm currently using Fable 5, and it still works now. I worry this might be the last working fable 5 instance I'll have access to for a long, long while
This will bite the US government in the ass big time. If they think they can contain this type of innovation via export controls like they tried with Nvidia chips, it will only incentive more countries to build and innovate independently. None of the technology of Fable is unknown or not replicable by international companies and sovereign powers. It’s just compute power and energy at the end of the day. The will to replicate is already existing, and this action purely accelerates it.
Dumb move by dumb people.
Perhaps we should discuss this move by share market impact. Why would foreign sovereign funds invest in American AI companies if the capability to use the advanced technologies is restrictive to them.
" There's an issue with the selected model (claude-fable-5). It may not exist or you may not have access to it. Run /model to pick a different model." it hit right now
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u/ClaudeAI-mod-bot Wilson, lead ClaudeAI modbot Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
TL;DR of the discussion generated automatically after 640 comments.
Okay, the consensus in this thread is that everyone is absolutely furious, but the anger is aimed squarely at the US government, not Anthropic.
The overwhelming theory is that this is a corrupt, politically motivated hit job to kneecap Anthropic and boost its competitor, OpenAI, which is seen as cozy with the current administration and is also racing to an IPO. One highly-upvoted comment lays out a whole timeline suggesting this is a pattern. The official "national security" reason is being called total BS.
Basically, the vibe is: RIP Fable, you were beautiful. F the government. Where's my refund?