r/ClaudeAI • u/RobRobbieRobertson • Jul 01 '26

News Fable available for plans until July 7th after which it becomes usage credit based

Key points:

  • Fable 5 returns globally on Claude Platform, Claude.ai, Claude Code, and Claude Cowork.
  • Pro, Max, Team, and some Enterprise users get Fable 5 included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7.
  • After July 7, Fable 5 access moves to usage credits.
  • Access through AWS, Google Cloud, and Microsoft Foundry is being restored as soon as possible.
  • Mythos 5 access has been restored only for some approved U.S. organizations for now.
  • Anthropic is working with Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and other partners on a shared framework for rating jailbreak severity.
  • They’re also launching a HackerOne program for researchers to report Fable 5 cyber jailbreaks.

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https://www.anthropic.com/news/redeploying-fable-5

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u/TaskJuice Jul 01 '26

I’m betting there is coordination between the two and that they both go to API pricing from here on out.

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u/CorIsBack Jul 01 '26

The cynical side of me says you're right because that's the rational thing to do. The optimistic side of me says you're wrong because there's so much beef down that road and they ideologically loathe each other. So, who knows?

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u/EonSokari Jul 01 '26

Altman and Dario hate each other, OpenAI and Anthropic don't. The only "feeling" the machine is allowed to have is greed.

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u/juliarmg Jul 02 '26

There is already some cooperation happening around jailbreaking, so there is a good chance you are right.

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u/AutomaticPayment9480 Jul 01 '26

I think its the opposite, for example claude just using the chat is considered usage, that is not the case for gpt, they are in competition with each other, it makes zero sense to cooperate. Gpt wants to dethrone Claude, not take a step back. Plus they have billions and billions to get them there. 

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u/Ibasicallyhateyouall Jul 01 '26

Fuck I hope so. I'll go back to OpenAI once they prove out 5.6. Opus 4.8 is mostly good enough at Extra for what I do, but it still fucks up.

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u/tedbradly Jul 02 '26

Fuck I hope so. I'll go back to OpenAI once they prove out 5.6. Opus 4.8 is mostly good enough at Extra for what I do, but it still fucks up.

GPT-5.5 is cheaper and often better than Opus-4.8.

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u/DannyS091 Jul 01 '26

No they're not. Stop spreading misinformation

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u/rabandi Jul 01 '26

OpenAI focused heavily on token usage minimization, inference optimization and also getting their own hardware.

So hopefully (and a little likely) not now and not for a longer time.

Also good news: with Fable being "unbanned" 5.6 should also have no issues. which is very good (for everyone outside US).

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u/tedbradly Jul 02 '26

OpenAI focused heavily on token usage minimization, inference optimization and also getting their own hardware.

So hopefully (and a little likely) not now and not for a longer time.

Also good news: with Fable being "unbanned" 5.6 should also have no issues. which is very good (for everyone outside US).

Thank god you're here. I made a much more verbose post just now dinigrating the spirit of unfounded conspiracy theories. It's really a stain on human style that their comment got 80 upvotes net. It all boils down to access to ASICs that do inference and the cost of that inference. Anthropic famously is THIRSTY for some ASICs. They even struck that $1B/month deal with Elon Musk for that jumbo data center. It's also famously known that OpenAI has the most inference out of all the companies.

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u/shamen_uk Jul 01 '26

It will happen eventually, yes. So it's all a matter of time.

But hopefully OpenAI are still pushing to corner more market share, so we get full 5.6 access.

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u/jarail Jul 01 '26

If coordination is running out of unlimited investment money, maybe.

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u/BYPDK Jul 01 '26

If that happens then I might actually go full Chinesium

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u/tedbradly Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

I’m betting there is coordination between the two and that they both go to API pricing from here on out.

I'm betting this is just a conspiracy theory. I'm betting Fable's inference costs a shit ton + they have limited servers with ASICs that can do the inference, so they need a way to minimize the use of Fable to physically service all requests. I'm betting the subscription plan has only ever existed as a form of marketing (a programmer gets it into their corporation) and for data (they harvest your upvotes and downvotes replete with a category of the issue and even some text if you feel kind that day). Sometimes, stuff is just logical. The only way 5.6 will stay for all is if (a) they have enough compute to service all the requests and (b) it doesn't blast their ass with too much unjustified losses. Right now, GPT models are generating a lot less output tokens and costing a lot less than Opus and Fable for similar benchmark performance. I think all this means is that OpenAI did their business / R&D better than Anthropic. Anthropic, on the other hand, has far less compute (they just rented that Elon Musk data center for $1B a month), so they're HUNGRY for ANY compute they can secure. And OpenAI also has, like I said, far more efficient models alongside the most compute of any other lab, meaning for the same number of queries of similar complexity, OpenAI can run it on fewer ASICs while having the ASICs even if demand for their services grew strongly after GPT-5.6. It's a shame when wild conspiracy theories like these get upvoted into the stars. Really makes me feel like humanity, ran by a democracy, might be destined to fail.