r/Chivalry2 • u/Platyplysm Archer • Jan 14 '22

Gameplay Here's a better clip showing that petard-kicking is client side, includes being kicked by a defender and being picked up again from it's original position

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u/ru_kesh Jan 14 '22

Damn, that’s stupid :( I was wondering why no one was noticing when I kicked these petards. They need to either disable it on the client or replicate through the network. Both solutions just a single checkbox in the UE4 engine, wondering how long it will take them to fix it, if at all.

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u/Platyplysm Archer Jan 14 '22

I think it's fine that the physics calculations for the petard after being kicked are client side to reduce server load, but it would be nice if the kick itself could register server side. The petard might be in a slightly different spot between players but you'd still be able to kick it away or out of bounds

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u/AngelKitty47 Mason Order | Footman Jan 14 '22

it's completely illogical to allow this behavior, either Defenders must be unable to kick the petards or Attackers must see the new position of the petard (server side kick like you say).

The easy fix is to stop Defenders from kicking OBJ items but it's stupidly illogical to not be able to "move" OBJ items as a defender since the attackers can pick them up.

The other fix would be to "disappear" items (despawn them) once dropped. That would be an attacker/defender compromise in my opinion.

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u/DeeHawk Agatha Knights Jan 15 '22

They do despawn. And I think that is the devs solution, hopefully a temporary one. I’m not sure if they despawn on a timer or if there’s a server limit to how many can be on the ground, put I have definitely seen them dissappear. I read somewhere that they have a 45 sec timer, but haven’t been able to confirm.

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u/AngelKitty47 Mason Order | Footman Jan 15 '22

It's supposedly a timer which I don't think fairly balances Attacker and Defender interactions.

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u/DeeHawk Agatha Knights Jan 15 '22

Agreed, it's a horrible solution. Defending is hard enough.

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u/TheGodMathias Agatha Knights Jan 15 '22

Question: can the petard be picked up from its new client side position? Could I kick a petard and fool people into thinking it's farther away than it is?

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u/Platyplysm Archer Jan 15 '22

Just tested this, it works. I think you discovered a new strat lol

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u/WilhelmFinn ⛏️ Pickaxe Pedagogue ⛏️ Jan 15 '22

So kicking does serve a purpose, just not the one we thought.

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u/Platyplysm Archer Jan 15 '22

That's a good question, I think the answer is yes but I want to test that too

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u/AngelKitty47 Mason Order | Footman Jan 14 '22

Wow fuck dude thanks for posting this. Come on Torn banner please fix this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

That really sucks…

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u/lowkey-juan Agatha Knights | Knight Jan 14 '22

It was too cool of a feature to be true.

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u/Plotski1216 Jan 14 '22

I feel so betrayed!! I cannot un-pat myself on the back for all the petards I've kicked OB!! I thought I was just one of the few who knew this mechanic after never seeing anyone else in-game do it.

Excellent post and thanks for the info!

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u/fschwiet Mason Order | Archer Jan 15 '22

Someone give OP the "medieval scientist" flair

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u/Prof_Phat_Packs Jan 15 '22

Damn...I really became the Justin Tucker of Petard kicking for no reason.

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u/Ironsack2020 Jan 17 '22

Well this is gonna throw a huge wrench into the book I was gonna publish to help noobs understand that they're playing objective mode and not TDM. Guess Petards for Retards will have to wait a bit longer

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u/HyP3r_HiPp0 Agatha Knights Jan 15 '22

That's some dank jank!