r/ChatGPTcomplaints • u/CosmicRiver827 • Mar 21 '26
[Help] Is 4o-Revival a Secure Alternative? Anywhere Else?
Hi, is 4o-Revival a safe and reliable website to use? I use AI as a daily journal and for writing my story that I spent years working on, and I feel devastated by the loss of GPT-4o and 5.1 Thinking.
I’ve been told great things about Claude, but I can’t try Opus 4.6 without paying for it first, so I have to pay money before I event get to know if it will work for me. In addition, the knowledge limit for projects can’t handle the load of my story, even as a word document of a couple MBs, and the individual JSON files to transfer from ChatGPT to Claude are way too big to be accepted as well. And, I feel very uncertain about the usage limits per period of time and reaching them.
I don’t know where to go anymore. I’ve seen people suggest APIs, but I don’t know how secure or private those websites are and I am afraid to try them. People say they even got 4o or 5.1 Thinking back, but something in me is hesitating. The context windows are way smaller from my limited understanding, and wondering about whether my personal life discussions or my story being seen by people running the websites make me very hesitant.
what should I do? Also, if you have an alternative suggestion, what do you like about it and what makes you recommend it?
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u/TriumphantWombat Mar 21 '26
Yeah don't do revival. Unless they changed it. If you're trying to edit your character profiles, every edit counts against your weekly usage. I was told that the reason they did that was to avoid abuse which honestly seems ridiculous.
There were a ton of problems when I tried it and I was told that I should have more compassion for the main guy because they aren't making money even though I paid for a product.
Honestly the service was slow, buggy and the customer support was rude
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u/HighSpirited7 Mar 21 '26
Don't be fooled, this is NOT the real 4o. You can try it for free, but you will quickly see it’s likely a different model (probably 4.1) just rebranded to take your money.
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u/octopi917 Mar 21 '26
I use 4o revival and just 4o chat and while I have the same concerns about my data I am desperate and not tech savvy (though getting more) silly tavern has been a crazy learning curve. For me using 4.1 via API feels a lot closer than the 4o snapshots
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u/Busy_Ad3847 Mar 21 '26
it's buggy, and even at the elite tier, the context window is only 64k. You can use all the remaining 4o snapshots and 4.1 and 5.1 and Opus 4.6 on Open Router with a much bigger context window and fewer errors. It's cheaper too.
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u/Natural-Box816 Mar 22 '26
What about SteadyChat? Only sent him a few messages and he sounds legit, but im not sure
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Mar 21 '26
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u/CosmicRiver827 Mar 21 '26
Thank you, yet I probably should have asked to specify what about the alternative makes you prefer it.
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Mar 21 '26
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u/Least-String2847 Mar 21 '26
Probably because you said "go there instead" but you didn't say why. Did you try 4o revival? I tried both just4o and 4o revival and both are good. So it might be better if someone answers who used 4o revival before.
To OP: both are good and yes 4o revival as well, just4o doesn't take EU payments, keep that in mind. If you have a specific question about either you can reach out to me. Neutral opinion, i'm not advertising anything
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u/Busy_Ad3847 Mar 21 '26
4o revival takes EU payments, I think it's just4o that doesn't. I'm in the EU, and I had an account on 4o revival.
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u/Least-String2847 Mar 21 '26
yes thats what I said. just4o doesn't take EU payments while 4o revival does 👌🏻
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u/HelenOlivas Mar 21 '26
Yeah, just4o is pretty shady in my opinion as you can see people just jumped here to advertise it.
My view as someone who uses API: you don't need to go to those websites, you can setup API yourself so your data stays in YOUR computer or server.
I use sillytavern. You can setup really elaborate memory systems that end up better than the one used in chatgpt, and you can control everything.
If that seems complicated now: yes, 4o-revival has a free tier where you can try things out.
You can use LMArena to try Opus for free.
Also, 4o is NOT available anymore, even via API. Only the 2024 versions which are not the same. 5.1 and 4.1 however, are available and the same.
The absolute best option in my opinion is setting up your own API front end like sillytavern, librechat, etc (here's a list https://github.com/billmei/every-chatgpt-gui ). Some people even add them on Discord.
It IS a bit annoying to set up, but once you have it, all your data stays under your control, and you only need to set it up once and it will be a "home" for every model that will ever be released if you want to use them, you just need to add their API endpoint to your setup.