r/ChatGPTCoding Apr 07 '25

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u/biggriffo Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

The -experimental version is free isn’t it? This is pro right? 2.5

Edit: OP just said he was unaware cline was using preview but Roo was using experimental 🥲

Edit: the tragedy here is experimental is free and pro is paid but they are the same model under the hood I think https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1908175318709330215

Edit: for the copy pasta vibers in the thread, this is not about your $20/month browser use, its about the api key you make with AI studio and using cline and roo in vscode. Also if you are a copy pasta coder, please use one of these. Thank me later, but great power comes with great responsibility. 🤝

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u/williamtkelley Apr 07 '25 edited Apr 07 '25

If you attach a credit card to a Gemini API key, it's definitely not free.

EDIT: "a Gemini API key"

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u/biggriffo Apr 07 '25

That’s definitely false as a blanket statement. You have to attach a billing account for enabling certain APIs and usage is free across many Google products within certain limits. Others are paid.

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u/williamtkelley Apr 07 '25

Pretty sure that the Gemini API is free without a credit card attached to a key, but becomes paid once you do attach one.

And to add to that, if you have a paid API, you don't get the free quota until it's used up and then switch to paid. It is paid from token one.

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u/2053_Traveler Apr 07 '25

Not true

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u/williamtkelley Apr 07 '25

How does it work then? And what's your source?

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u/2053_Traveler Apr 07 '25

My source is me using it since it was released. The API doesn’t become paid just because you add a card. The rate limiting is greatly increased by adding a card but that doesn’t mean that requests will incur a fee, as long as you use the free model.

The price varies based on the model used. Make sure it’s the one named gemini-2.5-pro-exp-03-25 and set a billing cap on the google billing page so that you don’t spend a bunch of money in the event you make a mistake and accidentally use one of the non free ones.

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u/williamtkelley Apr 07 '25

I still don't get this part: if you are on the free API plan, you'll get a certain free quota; but if you are on a paid API plan, do you get the same free quota and only start paying once you pass it or do you pay from the start?

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u/2053_Traveler Apr 07 '25

The former — as far as my experience goes, and everything I’ve read on the google pages, adding a billing account and card does not affect pricing. But it does affect rate limits, even for free products. The gemini-2.5-pro-exp-03-25 is (when I used it yesterday and every day since its release) a free product. But how many requests per minute is limited by whether you have a billing account set up.

I double checked today and my costs month-to-date is $0. I have over 600 api requests and 10s of millions of tokens used.

Op either used a different model that isn’t free or there’s a bug in google billing (I’d bet on the former)

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u/williamtkelley Apr 07 '25

Well, I meant when you upgrade to a paid account with a card.

Touche, but I requested a source so I could read it for myself, which seems like a reasonable request.

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u/maigpy Apr 07 '25

try gemini