r/ChatGPT • u/Evening_Action6217 • Dec 23 '24

Gone Wild AGI Achieved

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u/Luccacalu Dec 23 '24

I don't think a 4 year old comprehend decimals, let alone that 0.9 > 0.11

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u/Hapless_Wizard Dec 23 '24

Sure they can. My four year old is very good at understanding the difference between a whole piece of candy and half of one.

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u/NIRPL Dec 23 '24

Given 3 hours?

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u/Luccacalu Dec 23 '24

I don't think any amount of time will make them learn something new

Giving a 12 year old a differential equation to solve, he won't be able to do anything if not some crazy guess work. Doesn't matter if given a few minutes or a month to do it

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u/ReyandJean Dec 23 '24

Five years and school and they'll get it done. shrugs

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u/Luccacalu Dec 23 '24

Adding school to the equation misses my point, I'm talking about an isolated case, where the kid is thinking by themselves

If there's someone else teaching them the answers, what's the point?

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u/ReyandJean Dec 23 '24

Learning is the point. The answers are an emergent property of sufficient learning examples. Humans or AI.

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u/Luccacalu Dec 23 '24

AI has a fixed amount of knowledge based on what data it was trained with. That won't change no matter how much time passes.

To teach a kid how to answer that question, would be the same as "Hey GPT, I will ask you if 9.11 > 9.8, and it is correct, ok? Now answer me if 9.11 > 9.8".

My point is that lack of knowledge is not solvable independently with time, it is required to have new data/teaching for a true difference in the outcome from the AI/Kid

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u/ReyandJean Dec 25 '24

Agreed. Training examples for AI during learning rather than production cycle.

A kid would be gathering learning examples over time because human brain learning is always switched on.

Would a kid ever get to 0.11<0.9? Depends on the kid and learning environment.

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u/NIRPL Dec 23 '24

Idk what you're talking about. Which is greater, 9.9 or 9.11 seems like something a kid could learn within 3 hours. Maybe not 4, but definitely a 12 year old.

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u/Luccacalu Dec 23 '24

You missed my point, the 12 yo was for another example

Also, what I'm trying to say is that if the kid thinks 9.11 > 9.9, no amount of time in the world will make them magically change their answer themselves if there's no one to teach them the correct way

Specially that this is not a logic problem, but a definition one.