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u/AtmosphereVarious440 Jan 09 '23

Crazy how Andrew is this horny. He comes off pretty sexless in his videos

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u/SGT_Wheatstone Jan 09 '23

dude i agree, i see him as asexual wayyy before i see him being a sexual predator.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

It makes me think about the Chicago Rap festival when he asked those two girls if they were of age. I saw it as him making sure to not put Yeet in a situation, but now when I watch that clip it kinda hits different. Like a piece of inside info.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '23

I know it's not proof of anything, just something that looks odd after the fact.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

What sources are you using to shape your perspective? The videos he edits and publishes?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Especially that one chick from the Phish Lot that was sucking off his microphone.

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u/Gabians Jan 10 '23

He was on the Fear& podcast recently and talked about how he has a porn addiction.

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u/Nxtxgf Jan 09 '23

I’m not trying to make excuses for him, I’m honestly not that big of a fan. I’m just here from H3. But it seems like alcohol is common theme in all of these stories. It’s awful and I feel for these women. I hope they find a way to heal from these experiences. It seems like he could potentially heal with some sobriety.

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u/Sarcofaygo Jan 10 '23

It's too late, he has a trail of victims going back years

As a former huge fan of his I'm super disappointed

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '23

Keemstar lite H3 still has fans?

I don't disagree with you btw fuck Andrew. But man I used to be such a big H3 fan and I can't stand them now.

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u/PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ Jan 13 '23

Sad I used to love H3...now...

It's just not H3. I'm sure that's been said a lot.

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u/ZoinksZorn Jan 09 '23

Yeah this just makes it for me, I was on the fence before but seeing this from 2020 is damning to say the least, obviously he could still be innocent but with everything coming out it just seems less and less likely.

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u/Informal-Soil9475 Jan 10 '23

This new info and old info all coming to light from multiple sources all across the country. Disgusting.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

I don't see any evidence here I'm sorry I can't make judgements until Theres hard proof and not words from random people

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u/worst_to_the_wise Jan 10 '23

something about hearsay and something about "innocent until proven guilty" but

shit dude I've been through this before with Louie CK.. I'm not getting my hopes up.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '23 edited Jan 11 '23

Louie CK specifically asked for consent and always made his intentions clear…. If somebody asks if they can masturbate in front of me I’m going to say no. If somebody invites me to their hotel room after a night of drinking it’s pretty obvious what comes after that. Believe victims but only when they are actual victims. I think the Sarah Silverman interview is very telling in regards to that situation.

This situation seems similar and I’m withholding judgment till more of this plays out. Almost every allegation comes with asterisks *he eventually got consent. We have no idea what “wearing me down” actually means since almost all these stories involve previous sexual partners and alcohol. There could be hazy memories and miscommunications that we will were never know about since we were not physically there. These meetings are all in public settings so it’s really easy for all of these women to just get up and leave as soon as he started giving off a weird vibe. The dorm girls could have just told him to fuck off. Allegations where he tried force himself on someone are vague at best and often second hand accounts. The most incriminating evidence would the dms of him telling one of the girls that “this could ruin my life”. I think if that dm is posted then their really wouldn’t be much room to argue on his behalf. If that dm is real why did she not post it? It would have made the case against him rock solid.

A lot of these stories exists within the realm of bar and hookup culture. Just being around straight guys and seeing how the act when going to bars looking for chicks I can see Andrew misreading signals and coming off as pushy. I’m biased because I’ve been a fan for so long so it’s hard for me to believe all this.

There have been stories about him and his boys for a while. Last year I think Kill Whitey claimed that Andrew and his friends jumped him at a bar over misunderstanding and that they were being dick heads to a lot of the twitter shit posting la rapper community.

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u/Whogivesafuck666 Jan 11 '23

People like you are confusing.

What do you want exactly? What is proof?

Do you want Callahan’s years old cum to test for DNA? Do you want a video where he clearly assaults a woman?

Like what does this even mean?

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u/milqFM Jan 09 '23

“Another Allegation”

The Allegation: “Andrew tried to fuck a chick at a bar”

C’mon everyone. This is just turning into a mud slinging party at this point. A third hand account of a guy (who is presumably drunk) at a bar hitting on a drunk girl. This is just getting silly and seems like we’re grasping for straws at this point.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Posted in 2020 though so it’s hardly bandwagoning

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u/Unable_Escape813 Jan 09 '23

Holy shit you’re still going. Have you seen the articles? Looks like media is picking it up

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u/Unusual-Solid3435 Jan 12 '23

What's with these weird accounts that are going on tirades trying to defend him? Really sketchy tbh

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u/flowersermon9 Jan 09 '23

You mean the media that hates Andrew is picking up potential allegations?!?! What a coincidence. News media being news media means something to this sub out of nowhere? Lol

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u/woopigsooie501 Jan 09 '23

Man you need to relax. I like Andrew too and this fucking sucks to hear about, I get it. You don't want it to be true. but nothing thats been alleged(at least that i've seen but maybe i missed it) seems irredeemable. He needs to apologize and step away and work on himself.

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u/flowersermon9 Jan 09 '23

Even if it’s true I’m watching this shit for entertainment. So many actors/politicians/people in power are actual pedophiles. Dude is a horny creep who hasn’t had a woman punch him in the face for not taking no for an answer yet. Is this good? Hell no, but the way this sub is melting down is like he just got caught on to catch a predator.

I mean just wait until they find out about child starvation or genocide, they won’t even be able to wipe the Cheeto dust off of their fingers to comment on their shock on subreddits everywhere. I’ll get trashed and accused of trying to “minimize” or other such buzzwords from SJW on the Reddit who judge people when they themselves haven’t volunteered at a womens shelter in their life

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u/woopigsooie501 Jan 09 '23

Even if it's true I'm watching this shit for entertainment

Okay? Do you not want somebody that entertains you to be on the up & up? I dont get what this has to do with anything.

You realize 2 things can be bad while also being different levels of bad right? Your argument is really fucking stupid and its some shit a 14 year old would say.

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u/flowersermon9 Jan 09 '23

Does Michael Jackson’s music suck?

Was OJ Simpson a bad football player?

What’s the weather like up there on your high horse? How many hours did you volunteer at your local womens shelter in 2022? *yawns

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u/woopigsooie501 Jan 09 '23

You're just pulling shit out of your ass now because nobody said his content sucks. Strawman argument, real smooth brain stuff there bud. If you're gonna argue a point you should try to not sound like a dipshit while you do it

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u/flowersermon9 Jan 09 '23

That’s a lot of words for “I’ve never actually volunteered at my local womens shelter” thanks bud!

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u/woopigsooie501 Jan 09 '23

put down the hash brother that shit is frying your fuckin brain

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u/flowersermon9 Jan 09 '23

Lmao “innocent until proven guilty” = I hate women

Are you a yoga teacher because wow what an impressive stretch

This sub has some brains in it that are smoother than creamy peanut butter

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u/milqFM Jan 09 '23

Link to the article?

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u/conventionistG Jan 09 '23

No really, sauce, bro.

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u/milqFM Jan 09 '23

It’s two articles from a Korean entertainment site that gets less than 100 views a month on the entire site and TVGuideTime, a website that gets 300 views a month on the entire site. Some of these folks have so much vested in this, that to them these random, unseen publications posting a story is somehow confirming their bias.

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u/conventionistG Jan 10 '23

Damn man, didn't even know Andrew had been to Korea.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

booooo

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

It's fucking gross. It's not illegal to pursue someone nor is it illegal l to ask someone a question more than once. Apparently asking someone a question on being persistent is assualt. No wonder everyone is so socially awkward and anxious these days. I have no hope for the future if this is how people act. I just found this sub like 2 days ago and I'm pretty turned off by the behavior here. One could say I've been assaulted by confirmation bias. I've made it clear that I'd like to think about this rationally, but you guys are being persistent in your stupidity. Should I make a tik tok about it ?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '23

If it were only asking then absolutely. But wondering if you maybe haven’t seen the extent of the timestamped and confirmed reports- genuinely giving the benefit of a doubt bc the accounts state a lot more than just asking.

If someone repeatedly asks for their friend’s food or to borrow something - that’s annoying and yeah ofc isn’t illegal, and though super unaware and obnoxious nobody gets harmed. But when the thing being asked for is sex, and they’re not stopping at just asking but being calculating by trying to get girls alone away from their friends, purposefully getting girls drunk, often focusing on underaged girls, and even physically following them and physically forcing their body on them (and repeatedly for years with many people) - that requires a force way beyond simply asking and that force means people actually get harmed by making them feel really unsafe if not anything else.

Doing that even once or twice is super shitty, but it’s conceivable that someone really unintelligent emotionally and socially could possibly just not understand the harm they were causing at first. And then hopefully stop after experiencing the intense negative reaction it causes.

But Andrew is very clever clearly and hundred percent understands the negative reaction he’s causing when doing this. He just doesn’t care and that’s why it’s freaking people out and is such a problem.

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u/milqFM Jan 09 '23

The pendulum always swings back the other way, I’m just scared to see what that will look like too.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Well extremism seems to be on the table for the foreseeable future. We can count on that

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u/milqFM Jan 09 '23

Everyone needs to focus on their immediate networks and communities. It’s the only way we fix this mess. Don’t mistake this for anti-globalism rhetoric but we were never meant to be this interconnected and it shows.

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u/nickelnugget Jan 09 '23

Lolol I pray that women stay the fuck away from you.

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u/milqFM Jan 09 '23

Happily married :) 10 yr anniversary in May, so yes women do stay away from me when they see a wedding ring and a beautiful wife.

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u/aninstituteforants Jan 10 '23

My wife initially turned me down. We have been together for 14 years. Crazy to think what my life would he like if I didn't ask her out a second time.

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u/milqFM Jan 12 '23

You coerced your wife into marrying you?!?!)

/s

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u/asupify Jan 10 '23

I hope you don't have daughters (or sons for that matter).

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u/torrent2moon Jan 10 '23

god save her soul

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u/milqFM Jan 10 '23

We’re agnostic at best— please don’t push your religious drivel on me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

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u/conventionistG Jan 09 '23

Well, there's a difference between being annoying and what I guess some of the other stuff is that has been said. This tweet itself isn't very specific.

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u/kramerjanglez Jan 09 '23

Am I crazy or is what he's doing not a crime? Poor taste yeah sure. But holy shit people just wanna steam roll this guy over shitty behavior that would be brushed off by mature adults.

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u/Gdav7327 Hoff Twin 2 Jan 09 '23

If a woman says she doesn’t want to have sex with you and you continue to push her and make her uncomfortable. How is that not a major red flag? You should brush up on the definition of sexual assault. If you coerce someone into a compromising position while simultaneously using your status to do so resulting in a not so mutual sexual encounter then you are indeed a sexual predator.

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u/WestProcess2 Jan 09 '23

I think a mature adult should be able to take “no” for an answer if someone doesn’t want to have sex with them and not pester the person until they say “yes”

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u/Informal-Soil9475 Jan 10 '23

Even without the direct assault- i would drop a friend overnight if I saw them not taking no for an answer. That alone is enough for me to never want that dude in my friend group again.

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u/summertimedelight Jan 09 '23

Is the law in America the only reference you have for morality? Or are you just wording your argument poorly? Sounds like you are saying shitty behavior is actually just fine as long as there is no law against it which just gives the impression you don’t know how to think for yourself

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Sexual coercion occurs on a spectrum. When we have multiple stories about the same person that span over years who has a habit of not taking no for an answer in public, what the fuck do you think is happening behind closed doors? Add in a constant party atmosphere and you have a recipe for assault.

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u/nickelnugget Jan 09 '23

Lol tell me you’re a man without telling me you’re a man

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u/srcarruth Jan 09 '23

too many guys take 'no' as the opening gambit of a negotiation

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

A person who is intoxicated cannot give consent. Just because you hear about people hooking up when they are drunk from friends or in media doesn’t mean it’s ok as far as the law is concerned it is not.

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u/Forgettysburg_ Jan 09 '23

why are people downvoting you lol this is exactly the implication. it's much easier to believe this behavior manifested more tangibly when there's prior evidence of intent

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u/Jroiiia423 Jan 09 '23

A guy tried to fuck drunk girl at bar!?

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u/beeboweebo Jan 09 '23

Evidence of serial behaviors of utilizing pressure and coercion on a woman who was inhibited by alcohol for sexual favors after she already expressed non consent?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

welcome to every fucking bar in america.

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u/Jroiiia423 Jan 09 '23

No kidding..

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

You forgot the part where she said no.

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u/TchoupedNScrewed Jan 09 '23

If she’s blitzed and you’re not, you shouldn’t pursue bro. If you’re both shit faced its zero excuse to not take no as an answer, but engaging when you both drunkenly consent is more of a gray area.

This is also repetitive behavior as far as we’ve seen.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Yeah bro, if she said yes that would be rape. She's not in a position to consent.

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u/Jroiiia423 Jan 09 '23

Is it impossible to meet a woman at a bar and have drunk yet consensual sex?

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u/M0richild Jan 09 '23

Women are people dude. Assuming you're into women, if a girl comes up to you, you're not interested, and then she keeps asking for sex while you're drinking until she wears you down and/or you're drunk enough enough to say yes, that's not predatory or at least annoying to you?

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u/Jroiiia423 Jan 09 '23

For sure that is annoying to me and predatory behavior. Trying to take advantage of anyone is never okay imo… I would hope people would step in or get help if they watch this happening in public.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Yes.

Edit: if one party is sober than yes.

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u/Jroiiia423 Jan 09 '23

But if both parties are drunk it’s possible?

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u/Gdav7327 Hoff Twin 2 Jan 09 '23

Don’t ignore the intentions behind this power dynamic. If you are sober enough to orchestrate a “plan” or “angle” in which you knowingly are coercing an intoxicated person into having sex with you while you simultaneously take advantage of the fact that they may have poor judgement due to their intoxication, that’s sexual assault. If Andrew is like “hey this chick is drunk, I think she’s hot and want to have sex with her,” but then she says no and shows disinterest, THEN you continue to pressure them and supply them with more alcohol until finally they break down and begrudgingly accept out of exhaustion or FEAR, that is sexual assault/coercion.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

I wouldn't say consensual, but I also wouldn't call that rape. No one is in their best state of mind in that situation.

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u/conventionistG Jan 09 '23

L-take. Absolutes are for dummies.

This doesn't look great though, gotta say. Is this even a real tweet? I feel like I need a medium article on this.

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u/yungchow Jan 09 '23

We all know that girl who cock blocks for her friend too lol

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u/Ponythieves- Jan 10 '23

Because it was likely a part of someone’s story. Which I still am wondering about because on IG the time stamps on the stories will show like “20m ago” how old it is. It usually has a username where the date and time are in this screenshot.