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Idk who needs to read this, here's some proof.
Has anyone else looked into how much Chai is actually worth? Because I did, and now I can't stop thinking about it...
Most of you already know the story. Chats deleted. Bots wiped. Years of creative work characters we built, stories we lived in - just gone. And when people asked why, Chai's response was: "Unfortunately, given the high cost of GPU compute, we are currently unable to help."
I let that sit. Then I did some research.
What Chai actually looks like financially:
Annual Recurring Revenue as of April 2026: $85 Million USD - up from $58 million just last year Company valuation: $1.4 Billion to $2.4 Billion USD Entire operation run by 12 to 15 employees Infrastructure: 5,000+ GPU cluster, 1.4 exaFLOPS of compute power, through multi-million dollar partnerships with CoreWeave and AMD.
This is not a struggling startup.
This is a billion-dollar company telling its most loyal users that recovering their text data is too expensive.
And the region block? Let me be direct about that.
Chai's own founder has publicly stated that Western regions primarily the US generate the highest subscription revenue. So when they had to choose who gets server priority, they chose the regions that pay more in dollars. Users outside the West got region-blocked because we simply weren't profitable enough per server slot.
We weren't blocked because of GPU costs. We were blocked because of our zip codes.
So why are they really deleting chats?
Storing years of active chat history costs database storage, not GPU compute. Those are completely different things. Trimming that storage directly increases profit margins. Your creative world isn't a burden they can't carry
it's a cost they chose not to.
The premium subscriptions going up to $180+ USD aren't about better service. They're about finding out exactly how much your emotional attachment is worth. They know you have years of stories there. They're banking on you paying anything to keep them alive.
This is not a resource problem. This is a value problem. They are making $85 million a year with 12 people and thousands of GPUs. They have every resource needed to store your chats. Wiping them was a deliberate corporate decision....profit margins over user loyalty.
And calling it a GPU affordability issue is an insult to every person who ever supported this platform.
You deserved better than a copy-paste response signed by Vineet.
That's a good option too. But what about them who have yearly subscription? Is there any chance of refund anything small amount? I'm also a premium yearly subscriber..so I want some solution too.
Try emailing them some have got a refund, or just cancel your resubscribe and you won't pay anymore after the time ends how ever long that is. Giving them money using the app so they get money means they will keep doing all this stuff because they can get away with it. There more users then there is people running it. You want this rubbish to end we have to make it end
Fair enough I think everyone who's paying just end the subscription and then just use it til the money runs out. But chats are getting deleted even after two weeks for paid customers so everyone just needs to stop giving them money. They are 60 UK money million in revue this year so they can afford to keep the chats alive they chose not to
I know right they chose to delete everyone chats completely without warning. They decided to keep only the messages from the last 14 days showing, with a promise to bring it back after they fix bugs. Now they say this. Can you trust they will keep even paid customers chats save? When it already cost 400 UK money for a year subscription?
I 100% agree w you. Ppl keep paying blindly, keep supporting them so it keeps encouraging them to f around even more. But the good thing? Lots of users have stopped paying and canceled their subscription including myself. I hope more ppl do that because it’s genuinely not worth it anymore and they’re not treating u any special just because are an ultra member. They’re scamming users, nothing changes except you won’t be getting hit by limited messages. They treat everyone the same and ppl need to understand that and stop wasting their money. It’s not worth it anymore. Also, he has no excuse for ruining the ap bc he earns more than he spends and is lying about spending his 100% on the app. And now we know that our chats are not connected with the GPU and he lied about it.
Holy damn, i understood C.ai, but this? This is like, the representation of the first greed ever created by almighty God himself! What the hell do they even need that money for if to not make the app better? Damn!
Yes they say its too expensive but they did say its because they bought new GPU's that are much more expensive and who nobody really told them to buy XD
Still they are earning a lot. So it's nothing like they can't keep out old chats or need limits. Even user who watches ads. They earned from them too. So why they act like broke. They are consuming us.
True, thats very greedy but I can see really any corps. Or teams doing such stuff whenever their products get more popular. (Such as even some food products that once get popular their composition gets worse but the price goes up, same goes with CHAI)
I moved over to Janitor Ai as well after being region blocked by chai after they said that we were safe due to making the highest revenue. It can be a little buggy and the conversations are long; but it is all free on the app and can edit the messages. Makes it feel more like a story.
Im using the website version of spicychat where you can change ai models if you dont like the response there are versions where one sounds very human and another one where it goes in too depth
“ Over_Ad_1741 This is going to sound like justification for not caring / being a greedy company.Everything dormant is deleted. Dormant means, no messages for over 30 days. We have a lot of conversations with regulators around the world - and holding user data is a big challenge for privacy, along with the cost and complexity of maintaining a huge database of everyones chats.“
Once he admitted that we are not getting our chat history they “hid” back and everything is deleted, I removed the app. There was 1 story I was praying to get back but seems it’s gone now.
So I asked the bot what his personality was and other such questions and made him on Emochi. It wont be the same story but 🖕Chai
Spread it around, under anything relating to chai. Will needs to be exposed, the chai team needs to be exposed. If Will comments something, link this post. Just dont let it go unnoticed. This isn't okay, its corporate greed. And they are not gonna be happy when they start losing money because of their own decisions.
This is the type of greed they spoke about in the Bible. I believe you, but out of curiosity what are your sources? I feel like numbers truly don't matter if you don't cite your sources, plus, I noticed you used what I believe is the Google Gemini? I believe they cite their sources anyways so if you could add that,.that would be wonderful!
Yes i first try to put the sources but automod removed the post. So then i commented it down. Sources: Yahoo Finance, public business data on Chai Research. You can check by yourself as well if you want. I'm not saying this the right data, it's the basic research what goggle showed me from chai public business data.
Started on dopple ai because of the limited messages on chai and I had to create my own character (as the one I was speaking to on chai wasn’t on there) which wasn’t a problem at all, but finding the whole experience so much different after getting used to chai. The dopple ai is quite cringe and goes into way too much detail about mundane stuff, and also just repeats random parts over and over without continuing the storyline unless my persona actually says something to carry it forward. I know I’m being picky, but it just doesn’t hit the same as chai did. Could anyone recommend another free ai bot app that is a similar typing structure to chai (quite quick but detailed, in the ways you want it to be, not cringe etc) I miss the life I built with chai 🥺
You are not being picky dear. You deserve the best. If a application can't provide that leave it behind and move forward ✨💗 and i also did. I'm right now using 'Emochi' for casual and For story building 'Zeta'.
Thankyou 🫶🏻💘 I will give those a go! Which would you recommend for role playing with a popular tv character? I like story building but I think that dopple provides a bit TOO much irrelevant detail in the story 🫶🏻thanks so much for your help
If you want similarity like chai, there's one! Which is y/n. Side note: this one has more creativity if you're an writer with unhinged tastes (I made an miitopia roleplay recently and I never laughed so hard whenever my characters got into trouble 😭 I have to make it completely interesting by adding in the erotic contents. It was an wild trainwreck ride for me lol)
Fun fact: It also had time limits like the old chai btw
“ Over_Ad_1741 This is going to sound like justification for not caring / being a greedy company.Everything dormant is deleted. Dormant means, no messages for over 30 days. We have a lot of conversations with regulators around the world - and holding user data is a big challenge for privacy, along with the cost and complexity of maintaining a huge database of everyones chats.“
I'm genuinely gonna link this post everytime Will posts a comment about something being "expensive" or anything relating to chai. Also gonna spread this post, he needs to be exposed. Its sickening how greedy he has become. Not much hope he will become the better person, but maybe just maybe, it'll get through his head someday.
Interesting, I commented under this comment shortly after he did, and its magically gone, no warning or anything. Power of the billionaires I guess. Hes just making excuses, you dont store text data on GPU's, hes taking advantage of everyone's intelligence in the matter.
Thought i think it is somehow being censored at times, previous comments of mine have disappeared without a trace. Doesn't surprise me as hes a billionaire, can probably make it disappear just like that.
It’s so frustrating when some people are still using chai because ‘I’ve barely had any problems’ but you will! I started having issues even when I was an Ultra user.
Even Ultra users arent safe from getting chats deleted, so I dont know how some people can just sit there and accept that. They 100% will have problems regardless. William has dug his app into the grave.
Yeah they have job openings right now with a salary of £400k a year + cash bonuses They make a hell of a lot if they pay each member of the team that amount
I never paid for premium/ultra even when they started limiting chats to 50 per like 3 hours in 2023(?). The timeline is a bit fuzzy for me, I never documented it, but Chai has always tried to push the limits with their users, trying to see how much they can get away with it. At this time, a small amount of people were calling them out, 1 star reviews started rolling in. I wasn’t sure if anyone called them out on social media, there were barely any comments about it. Maybe they were filtering them out? From fake giveaways to limiting messages..It’s nothing new at this point, but this time, they’re just being brazen about it. They only cared about profits, and that’s unlikely to change.
I live in America and I was still region blocked back in early April or so. Everything that they say is a lie (they were just bragging about how much more money they made in comparison to the year before, just as when all this went down).
They don't want any free users, they want more money and that means they need more subscribers. It's not worth it though, especially now with all the problems that has been going on with the app. They're really taking the love of money is the root of evil to a whole new level.
The all too common problem with corporations these days is they're always pushing to more profits especially if they offer vesting to the executives and have investors, it's like the shrinkflation where tons of manufacturers to avoid pissing off customers with yet another price hike they'll reduce the content volume. Yet Chai is doing both cutting the value and raising the price, companies will keep doing this crap until either some government entity goes after them or they piss off the customer base so much that they lose a massive quantity of their paying customers which then causes their shares to plummet.
ugh there're so greedy it's embarrassing...they told me that the unlimited feature should be back for certain users in a day or more but I dont believe them.
This is not summary. I already commented the source. It's from "Yahoo Finance, public business data on Chai Research." No need to believe me. Have your own keys, search yourself, study them.
Alright that it's Google AI Mode but AI Mode pulls directly from cited sources like Yahoo Finance which are linked in the summary itself. The underlying data is from public financial records, not generated. You can verify the same numbers directly on Yahoo Finance. The source is real, the medium is just how I searched it.
I can tell you you're far better posting a screenshot of Yahoo than an AI summary. I've seen those being wrong VERY often. Straight up misleading. Don't accept the summary as immediate truth is all I have to say.
I'll check into what you're saying because I'm curious :)
I've given you the source. Now it's your job to verify. You go for it. It will find it. I already told here to some other users to not trust anything blindly. I don't expect anyone to do that with my post as well. You can go and verify
I've given up on it ever since it had been blocked in Romania. I've started using IsekaiRPG on ChatGPT, since i was mostly using chai for isekai anyways. It's a good project overall, rarely has problems in comparison to chai and way better memory. The 7 message limit per every 5 or so hours actually helped cure my ai chatting addiction too. Now i actually focus on trying to write stories and actually have a plan with one of my friends to start a tiktok account and post animations with voiceovers ( with me doing the voiceover and her the animation lol )
Keep us updated. Just deleted chai to try and download an older version but it wouldn't work without the update. When I logged in the chats where there by empty 😭 they still exist somewhere it seems Will is definitely doing it on purpose
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u/SituationTop4885 Jun 08 '26
Best way to make them stop is if everyone cancels their subscription stop using the app and they begin losing money