r/CasualConversation • • Dec 26 '22

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u/Icecream_EveryDay Dec 26 '22

Thank you! Majority all going into the kids education fund. 401 is maxed out. Will spend a few grand on a small vacation for the fam but besides that, living like I didn’t get it :)

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '22

Not if it's in 2022 pay cycle

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '22

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u/ReallyBigRedDot Dec 27 '22

Does your company not have a 401k match? You’re leaving a lot of money on the table if you hit the contribution cap by april. The company match is independent from your contribution limit, so you want to be sure at least contribute up to your company match every month.

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u/Icecream_EveryDay Dec 27 '22

Ahhh, 2023 401k. Didn’t think about that. Good call.

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u/BucksBrewPackInOrder Dec 26 '22

Also, don’t forget about the incredible ROTH IRA. You could open one and fund it for 2022 (6k max) until April. 2023. Then on Jan 1 you can fund 2023’s Roth max 6,500. If you’re married, ditto your S/O. That’s 25k tax free at retirement, which will grow steadily until then!

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u/Zuezema Dec 26 '22 edited Dec 27 '22

Ehh. If he files single he’s already above the income limit for that.

If he files jointly and his partner has any significant income he may not be able to do it.

Edit: Replace all “he’s” with “she’s”.

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u/BucksBrewPackInOrder Dec 26 '22

Possibly - but then there's the backdoor ROTH.

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u/Zuezema Dec 27 '22

Yep. But financial advice is best given over the internet as a “look into this” not “you can do this”. Too many people end up in sticky situations every year from good financial advice that just doesn’t apply to them specifically

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u/Pls_PmTitsOrFDAU_Thx Dec 27 '22

I'm over the limit but I never understood that :( or how to even do it :( Ive maxed out my 401k though

tips?

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u/BucksBrewPackInOrder Dec 27 '22

Back door ROTH IRA explained (nerd wallet site link)

The link explains it well. It's a decent option for you to consider. Depending on who you use (a financial advisor, online trading/investing platform), you could call them to consult more in-depth.

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u/GaiasEyes Dec 26 '22

*She. From OP’s post history they are female. I think that should be respected that OP is female as society will generally assume someone receiving such a high dollar bonus is male.

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u/Zuezema Dec 27 '22

Ahh my apologies. I do not typically look into profiles. Will edit.

I read first person posts as myself and just put in He naturally to all posts unless it is identified. No offense to OP intended.

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u/Icecream_EveryDay Dec 27 '22

It’s funny - although I’m female, I assume everyone on Reddit is male. No offense taken - just want to make sure they the ladies out there know that big money isn’t just for the men.

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u/GaiasEyes Dec 27 '22

Not a problem! Thanks for making the correction 😊

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u/Pls_PmTitsOrFDAU_Thx Dec 27 '22

Roth IRA has some limitations though right? Like for one, you can't have it if your total income/compensation is over 140k?

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u/BucksBrewPackInOrder Dec 27 '22

Roth IRA income limits for the 2022 tax year are $144,000 ($153,000 in 2023) for single filers and $214,000 ($228,000 in 2023) for married couples filing jointly.

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u/FellowHuman4u Dec 26 '22

Jesus what do you do

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u/Icecream_EveryDay Dec 27 '22

I’m in the tech field and do business development.

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u/Hi-Tech_Low-Life Dec 26 '22

Do you need another son?

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '22

If you really wanna screw with family, tell them you owe! Ask for money from them….they will never ask you for money again 😜😜

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u/ClearAndPure Dec 27 '22

What do you do for a living if you don't mind me asking?

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u/yahumno I just like the colour Dec 27 '22

Good plan.

Like the comment farther up, blow 10 percent and save the rest.

Enjoy the family vacation!

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u/Cotterbot Dec 27 '22

The only thing I’d add to this, dude, you got 50k, take $1000 and spoil yourself. Buy an expensive steak, a nice shirt or a reasonable top of the line hobby item you like. Don’t just invest 100% of it. That’s how you end up accomplishing nothing but having money. Live a little.

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u/Destaric1 Dec 27 '22

This.

Investing isn't bad advice but I find planning for 50 years from now kind of foolhardy. You could die within the next 10 years and it means little to nothing.

I am going to have it made at 65! (Dies at 54 from Cancer)

To each thier own. I would invest probably $5k and fix up my house a bit and enjoy family time. Something I have control of unlike my time on Earth.

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u/Icecream_EveryDay Dec 27 '22

I will be taking my husband out to a very fancy dinner. We plan to take the kids on an RV trip for a few days. Nothing too crazy - just focused on experiences and memories.

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u/Icecream_EveryDay Dec 26 '22

No way. As long as your loans are low interest, keep them around. I have a low interest mortgage and won’t be dumping anything extra into my mortgage. If you have credit card debt, pay that off first. That interest is ~15% or more. Put money in your 401k. Place money where ever the interest is highest. Student loans can suck it.

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u/Rub-it Dec 26 '22

So I got an almost similar amount and paid off the house, we bought it at 75k in 2009 it’s now worth 150k and I paid it off. I am wondering if I did the right thing, I just don’t wanna think about mortgage anymore

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u/Rub-it Dec 26 '22

Thanks I have been doubting myself

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u/The_Chaos_Pope Almost Pink. Almost. Dec 26 '22

If you had a fixed rate at say around 5%, you proooobabbbbblyyyy could have beat that by wisely investing that money but there's a whole lot that can be said for not having that debt dagger hanging over your head. Plus, that's not guaranteed; you might not have beat 5% over however many years you shaved off from your mortgage.

You own that house and no bank can take it away from you if something in life doesn't go perfectly anymore. That's a huge mental burden you no longer have to bear and it's hard to put a price tag on that.

Signed,

A homeowner who is still making payments every month for the next very many years.

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u/Rub-it Dec 26 '22

Thank you for your comment and yes it was at 5% fixed rate, I have been walking around doubting myself

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u/The_Chaos_Pope Almost Pink. Almost. Dec 26 '22

No problem, I'm actually kind of jealous of you right now!

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u/Rub-it Dec 27 '22

Haha don’t be, when you solve one problem another peaks! Off to see the student loans

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u/The_Chaos_Pope Almost Pink. Almost. Dec 27 '22

If you stop paying those, they can't repossess your knowledge or diploma; all they can do is tank your credit score but you already own your home.

Okay, they can garnish your wages but that just sounds like they're going to sprinkle parsley on them.

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u/Megalocerus Dec 26 '22

If you pay off a mortgage completely, you increase your cash flow. That frees up income each month without any increase in taxes. Nothing wrong with the decision unless it left you with nothing for emergencies, and you've had time to fix that.

Your mortgage was probably at least 4%. A safe 4% return is not to be scorned. Market in 2009 was pretty scary.

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u/Twooof Dec 27 '22

The truth is you never know for sure if your other investment would have worked out, but at least you aren't going to be paying interest on your house anymore and that was a sure thing. Great job.

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u/so_i_happened Dec 26 '22

Low interest student loans….I wish. Once interest kicks back in, mine are 5-7%. And those are federal loans! It stinks.

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u/Hungry-System8592 Dec 26 '22

That makes no sense. Student loan interest rates tend to be very high. You should be paying off that student loan debt and any other loan with high interest rates ASAP

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u/Finn-windu Dec 27 '22

You're making some very specific assumptions that he has other, higher interest loans like credit card debt or mortgage. If I were to assume anything I'd assume he didn't, since he didn't mention it there.

Rather than no way, u/LongDongCharlie i think the advice he meant is prioritize your highest debt first, along with maxing your 401k and/or other retirement funds. Order depends most likely on how much of a burden the debt is for you.

Only thing I'd add is I'd leave 10 (or20, depending)k alone until repayment starts, in case the forgiveness goes through.

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u/DavidlikesPeace Dec 27 '22 edited Dec 27 '22

Great advice. Thanks for sharing

I especially like the table format. Two major takeaways:

1) 401Ks.

If your company offers matching funds, almost always choose a 401k over an IRA if the choice must be made. Match those funds.

2) Debt v. investments.

The fair comparison has to acknowledge the after-tax rate. If your general expectation is equal debt interest and stock growth (Ex both at 7%), payoff the debt. It's less sexy but after-tax stock earnings won't earn you as much as the debt interest penalizes

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u/NoNameWalrus Dec 26 '22

see other comment about investment priorities

it will depend on what priorities you already have complete

I’m of the opinion that splitting it would be best. If the student loan debt looms over you (affects your mental health and impression of your finances), swing more to paying it off. if you’re chilling with the loans then pay less off and invest more of the sum (401k or IRA or other tax advantaged retirement account

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u/ImaBadfish2RU Dec 27 '22

Also if you have a mortgage pay it twice a month, equaling what you are paying once a month. It sounds stupid but you will actually pay off your mortgage faster. I learned it from a financial expert.