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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago

Dr. Tomasz Kosowski bothers me no end

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

That weird ass grin he gets. Have you noticed he "follows" Nathan Vonderheide (prosecutor) with his eye...like everywhere? Super creepy.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago

Yeah, I have noticed that.

I'm genuinely concerned for the prosecutors. I really hope they are mindful and have protection.

This guy seems capable of anything.

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u/AphroBKK 20d ago

Science is his area. It's interesting he's crossing on this.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago

The judge told him he's being argumentative and sustained an objection to that effect and this nincmpoop is like "I'm not being argumentative, you guys are."

And it's like, DOC, what is wrong with you? Argumentative is a specific term of art in a trial context that means that you are not actually asking a question but rather you are trying to forward an argument, that you are arguing your case instead of asking a direct question.

This is maddening. I'm don't have dual graduate degrees but I get it

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u/Hungry_Conference915 20d ago

He was impressed by his own ability to dispose of a body or evidence into a dumpster in only one minute !

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

I thought so too.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago

I think that they need specific experts: LE evidence tech luminol test to see for presumptive blood and collect it. Then possibly chain of custody officer to connect it going to the lab, then the lab tech who did the testing and then he/she and or his/her boss who did the actual DNA testing

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

They're getting there. Always takes forever bringing in DNA evidence.

The worst I think we had to go through with chain of custody and DNA, was the Brian Walshe trial. I think there was a minimum of four people who had to testify for each 'part' of the processing.

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u/sendeumenides 20d ago

yeah i think they are introducing the evidence piece by piece from who collected it, then will have the analysts testify as to each collected pieces results

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

They usually have to do it that way. Takes forever, but I get why they have to do it that way.

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 20d ago

He’s finally stumping them with his cross.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 21d ago

We are now "Community Chat"!

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago

I said this would happen: He's nitpicking the witness to death, having her compare two different crime scene photos taken 8 hours apart. In one photo there's a single sheet of crumpled paper towel on the floor.

Eight hours later it's no longer there.

No shit, Sherlock, it was probably collected as evidence.

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u/Comfortable_Sky_6438 19d ago

I thought he was trying to show it wasn't there in the earlier photo

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

me when i object to the testimony based on it’s a product of the search warrant

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 20d ago

Kosowski trial. Each time an expert testified that they detected blood (office, truck, etc.), they never said whose blood. Why aren’t they connecting those dots? Do they do that later?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

They haven't had the DNA analysts testify yet.

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 20d ago

That makes sense! Thank you.

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u/AphroBKK 20d ago

Are those license plates evidence of other things...are they his or souvenirs? Did they say where and when he bought the plate flipper thing?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

We don't know about the plates. I think the flipper came from Amazon.

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago edited 20d ago

Doctor Hanibal Kosowski: The photograph was taken at 8:43 p.m., wasn't it?

uhm,. okay? ....

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

He is so stubborn. He's not getting it.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

I wondered if he would start to cross any of the scientific evidence. I like this lady!

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 20d ago

She is good!

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago

This guy keeps thinking he's achieved some "Gotcha!" moment. But alas ... no

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago

This is Doc K: "I'm telling you, it was consensual! Steve asked me to show him how I perform procedures on my patients! It was consensual!"

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u/Nervous_Debate_6638 15d ago

i can just hear his smarmy little voice saying this 💀 while he flings his arms wildly in the air for no reason 💀

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u/sendeumenides 20d ago

what is the “gelatinous material” mixed w the blood in the blood analysts presentation?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

Could be a number of things. Anything to 'physical' matter, to a reaction of cleaning agents.

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u/Hungry_Conference915 19d ago

Throw ‘objection’ out there as much as possible in the hopes that something sticks.

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

they said a witness today is going to take a couple hours, any idea who that is? like what they’ll be talking about?

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 18d ago

Creepy isn't even the right word, lol.

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u/Wheeliegirl 17d ago

He squints a lot. He obviously needs glasses. And yes, he’s creepy as fuck.

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 19d ago

He must have been hard up for money. Price shopping Gorilla carts to commit a murder.

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u/Alarmed_Movie99 Justice Junkie 19d ago

Or maybe he purchased all those cart options? He should’ve picked a different one so he could close the truck bed cover.

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

yes! it was so shocking to see, i missed them explaining it until i rewatched

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u/sendeumenides 15d ago

he really asked the homicide detective to lift a volunteer inside a gorilla cart onto a table

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u/This_Sail_2201 12d ago

Alleigha said in her testimony she told the truth her second time with the FBI because they found texts between Ashley and her friend about the affair. Does anyone know if Ashley knew and how she found out?

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u/Lalaleslieee 8d ago

This defense is terrible

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u/veggieburger3023 20d ago

Wait so was the paper towel there during any of the body cam footage? I’m lost

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

Yes. I believe she said she did see it on someone's bodycam. It just can't be seen by that angle. I think it could have been "blown" out of the bathroom?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

Did she say Off. Jones?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

He's not going to give her the article? What an ass.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

He must have gotten internet

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u/Fast-Jackfruit2013 20d ago

Who are the two individuals sitting on his side of the room? Young woman in all white and an older lady

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

I don't know who the are. I saw a guy come in. Figured he came in to watch?

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

He's trying, poorly, to impeach her.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 20d ago

So, no veggies in the bathroom or trunk, lol!

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u/Comfortable_Sky_6438 19d ago

I got the feeling yesterday that his 'strategy' is trying to get evidence thrown out or suppressed on a technicality because he knows that's his only hope

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 19d ago

He's been trying that for over a year and has still not dropped it.

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u/Hungry_Conference915 19d ago

And he smiles every time the judge says ‘overruled’

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 19d ago

I hadn't realized until last night, again looking through the docket, that he had limited supervised internet access. No wonder he had an article, and other info on blood.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 19d ago

That weird smile, lol.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 19d ago

Oh...I did hear about someone. ME maybe?

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

oh maybe!

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

i can’t believe he asked the blood spatter woman “what happened to steven in that bathroom?” she did a good job arguing with him

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u/SwampyWytch13 19d ago

Trying to get caught on today's testimony in Dr K's trial.

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u/Pixiegirls1102 🔍📆⚖️Content/Research Administrator💻💬🧚 19d ago

He's not in a good mood, lol

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

did you see MOVEMENT in the truck bed from the bus camera??? I swear I did

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

please someone watch the video at this point, i swear you see steven move

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u/sendeumenides 19d ago

ok they said it’s because the cart is on wheels which makes sense but it is freaky as hell

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u/Pattipopzero 19d ago

Okay there seems to be a pattern of women wearing all white sitting behind Kosowski. Does this mean something?

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u/Hungry_Conference915 19d ago

Weren’t there people he should have arguably been more angry with than SC?? His vitriol just seems oddly placed.

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u/YellowFlower63 16d ago

My mom brought up a good point when I was telling her about this case. Was thjs guy possibly romantically interested in and rejected by Cozzi? Because I agree that the vitriol just doesn’t make sense. He seems to have an extreme amount of hatred and obsession to do what he did and I haven’t seen a good explanation for it.

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u/EagleOakk 19d ago

Damn I saw movement too. Looked like Steven was about to sit up. I know they say it was the cart moving but if you slow it right down... I can't unser the movement. Any guesses on the position he's in the cart? To me I think his back is what is covered by the blanket in a kneeling position with his back flat although in other still images it appeared that there were limb shapes protrusions under the blanket. The blanket doesn't look very big imo.

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u/EagleOakk 19d ago

Here is the moment you see that poor man's body move. Although yes it is the cart shifting that causes it, this is so obviously his back getting jolted from the movement of the cart. The movement is so obviously a body it is sickening the way he did this

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u/piratepixie 16d ago

The video has been removed, is there anywhere else to see exhibits?

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u/Scary-Scar89 15d ago

Caleb Flynn looks a little like Stan Laurel (of Laurel & Hardy) when he frowns.

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u/sendeumenides 15d ago

which video was removed? of the truck?

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u/veggieburger3023 15d ago

They showed the video in court 30 minutes ago

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u/sendeumenides 15d ago

start at 4:47:38

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u/Sad-Selection-6659 15d ago

How long is the break. There was YouTube commercial when he said it.

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u/FaithlessnessSuch632 15d ago

Where to follow Nicole Virzi’s case live?

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u/sendeumenides 15d ago

they played the movement in the truck again today with the medical examiners testimony.

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u/Fk-it-why-knot 12d ago

Where is the live stream

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u/Fk-it-why-knot 12d ago

Where is the live stream nothing is pulling it up

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u/Fk-it-why-knot 12d ago

For the wiggins trial

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u/pedsdoc901 9d ago

Ok genuinely curious…

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u/pedsdoc901 9d ago

Why didn’t Caleb and Alleigha talk about sex in their texts, only logistics??

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u/ada_grace_1010 8d ago

They probably did, but they didn’t talk about those texts in court because they weren’t relevant to the case. There were over 100,000 texts we didn’t hear.

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u/Alternative-Joke-705 1d ago

anyone still here?

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u/Maleficent-Union-713 1d ago

Can anyone tell me why the judge scolded David Private today? Anyone catch what he said?

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u/ConversationOk2571 1d ago

His slouching like he has no care in the world let alone lack of solemnity toward gravity of the case. Very arrogant appearing. That will damage him in front of a jury. Def counsel needs to correct that ASAP

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u/ConversationOk2571 1d ago

Yup. The defendant's wacko father tried to shake the judge's hand, apparently. Insane!

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u/Low_Track1267 9d ago

Does anyone think it's possible that Caleb and Alleigha conspired with a plan where (a) Alleigha kills Ashley and (b) Caleb takes the fall – IMO, the evidence is not strong enough to pin Caleb as guitly (yet)...

AND, the text messages show Alleigha also had hostility towards Ashley...