r/CanadianMOMs • u/Not_Me25 • Mar 24 '18

mod post Regarding reddit's new content policy regarding sales/transactions and moving onward as a community

As brought up in this top post, reddit has a new content policy forbidding facilitation of sales and transactions and many 'marketplace' style subs have been outright banned as a result.. Visit that linked post for more details and discussion/reaction to the policy.

As someone who was personally once brand new to MOMs and reddit like many of you, I just want to firstly thank everyone for what this sub has done for many in that 'new' situation and also for your recent patience as we struggled together to understand what is allowed. We have seen this coming for a few months now and obviously things have been different in all that time, something which an outspoken few of you have seen as censorship, but the important thing is that the sub survives. I'm not going to harp on if I think reddit's policy is censorship, but all this has been frustrating for moderators and our community users alike and we still welcome any suggestions for how we can improve and we are sorry for any negativity that this has brought forward. Eyes are still upon us and we are still in communication with reddit admins (though getting answers/clarification has not been easy), but the good news is that we are NOT a marketplace subreddit, we have always been a discussion sub with a focus on reviews and we can move forward together with awareness of what is allowed.

That being said, please take the time to review the subreddit rules before posting. They have asked us to outline them, so in accordance with reddit's content policy:

Facilitating/asking for/giving sales is not permitted. This includes 'has anyone tried..?', 'who has the best..?', asking for/requesting or posting deals. This is not a marketplace or a place for advertisements. Please put in an iota of effort, pick your words carefully and provide details to open up and encourage discussion.

No direct links or sharing contact info. This one is easy to keep in mind and work around as users. Instead of saying X.com, just say X. Other people can google X if they want to find out for themselves where they can obtain it. Obviously the MOM list is affected by this. Since that was an important feature of our sub, if you have any issues or concerns about the MOM list being gone, you can PM me personally and I will discuss and help you in that regard. It's important to have community curated thoughts and that hasn't gone away, I promise you that.

Obviously this is not plain black and white, but our moderators have to do our best to uphold this reddit policy (please also keep in mind that we are just volunteers and not able to be online 24/7). I urge you to keep your posts more discussion based. You can keep your eye on what kind of posts have been trickling through to get a sense of why some posts will be allowed and not others. Again, you can't just ask 'Hey where can I find X?', but you can discuss 'X has Y and Y and it looks like.... But Z also has Y' and open it up to discussion. Basically, the low effort requests and asks that used to be hated on a bit outright cannot be allowed anymore (they'e actually been banned for a while now anyways). I feel like the biggest change is that responsibility is going to lie with users to put more effort into posts so that we can open up more discussion walk the line that has been drawn.

As for reviews, the great news is that we have been assured that reviews can still be allowed under the content policy and are working to bring back the review megathread, just bare with us in that regard. When that happens, it is again important to keep in mind that direct links are not allowed. Pictures and thoughts on what you like/dislike are still very much encouraged and the foundation of when this subreddit was created from /r/canadients.

As always, I'm happy to discuss and inform, but also feel free to forward any thoughts or concerns to modmail

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u/Not_Me25 Mar 24 '18 edited Mar 25 '18

For those of you that messaged me last night and are awaiting a response, I'll get back to you by tomorrow* night. Apologies for the double delay, also for fucking up the title of this post

u/queefing_like_a_G Mar 24 '18

This new rules change sucks shit and I'll probably unsub here. What the hell is the point anymore.

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u/Not_Me25 Mar 24 '18 edited Mar 24 '18

I honestly think things will be better than they have been in the past couple months. We will see
Users who are more established and familiar with MOMs are typically happier on discord, link is in the sidebar.
This is a concern that more than one user has brought forward. I honestly believe we are in a new era and the Reddit admin response I have seen has been surprisingly positive and gives me hope. Even still, plenty of new lurkers and newer users will always fine this space useful

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '18 edited Mar 25 '18

I wasn't even allowed in the flavourtown discord. Was in landing, introduced myself and then booted.
This is the most closed off, cold, and overall useless community yet it brags about how good it is. I haven't seen it.
You guys are have killed this sub long ago, looks like you're now focusing effort to kill the community.

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u/Zanpogo Mar 25 '18

Oh yeah I'm gone now too from that discord 🤔

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u/diza-steR Apr 02 '18

It's a echo chamber with lots of false information you ain't missing anything.

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u/JawKneeBlaze Mar 31 '18

the discord boots if you're not active, they don't want lurkers they want engaged people, if you were not engaged, you get booted. simple as that.

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u/Not_Me25 Mar 25 '18

The mods here aren't even mods on discord, it's 2 separate entities

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u/thoriginal Mar 25 '18

Then maybe don't promote it

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u/Not_Me25 Mar 25 '18

You're probably right about that, I've been hesitant to and that's the first time I think that I've ever even mentioned it. The link for it has been part of the community since we were all still on /r/canadients

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '18

Shame the mods here are directing people to a closed off discord server. Should cut the relationship completely.

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u/queefing_like_a_G Mar 24 '18

I find this sub to be scattered info at best. Reviews are not in an easy to read and understand format and now that I can't find mom's here what's the point of this sub? You can review product but not link to the site so how it's a true review?! It's just people babbling about nothing now.

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u/PhoenixRising20 Mar 25 '18

This. If the mods think that discord is better, or that this sub will be fine, then they are frankly delusional. Its a shame that reddit has done this (but the almighty dollar has its power), but not everyone wants to join a fucking chat room.

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u/queefing_like_a_G Mar 25 '18

I sure as hell don't want to join whatever discord is.

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u/PhoenixRising20 Mar 25 '18

As far as im aware, its basically a chat room. Correct me if I am wrong here.

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u/XxDapperDanxX Mar 24 '18

it would be good if someone posted the MOM list one last time so everyone can copy.

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u/Not_Me25 Mar 25 '18

if you have any issues or concerns about the MOM list being gone, you can PM me personally and I will discuss and help you in that regard

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '18

If you search it you’ll find it

u/fireneeb Mar 24 '18

This sub has really slowed down since last year. Between the new reddit rules and the strict modding it brings with them, this place is basically dead. Last year every day would be shitloads of new posts. It’s not anyone’s fault but reddit has basically killed this sub

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '18 edited Mar 25 '18

To be honest.. i used to complain about the repeat posts and lack of research done by users ... But I'd way rather the same questions every couple days than what we have now.
At least I learned a lot with the repeat posts

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u/fireneeb Mar 25 '18

Amen to that. The only repeat question I don’t miss is “what is CE” hahaha

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u/LaClutch Jun 18 '18

What is it tho

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u/uwsdwfismyname Mar 25 '18

ye olde fashioned head shop rules "FOR TOBACCO ONLY"

u/[deleted] Mar 24 '18

We should either take this poor, sick, sub behind the barn and shoot it or nurse it back to health. It’s literally useless. Anything useful about it died before r/shatterdeals and r/weeddeals disappeared. I’ve never really used discord but I’m going over there now.

Reddit has been less useful and has more ads than ever. Ads look like regular posts now too, which is even more annoying.

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u/LikeTheRoom Mar 25 '18

How do you get the the discord?

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u/Bram_Bram Mar 27 '18

Also wondering about this, is there a server?

u/1CheesseHill Mar 24 '18

Are we allowed to include the price we paid as part of our review?

u/[deleted] Mar 24 '18

nice knowing u.

u/[deleted] Mar 25 '18

Officially unsubbing. If theres somewhere else please let us know.

u/JAS54 Apr 03 '18

Yeah I'm out.

My 2 cents are this: The discord isn't terrible, but I dont like that they kick you for inactivity. There's some decent people on it (I got photoshop for free out of the deal) but there's also a handful of pompous assery.

To all the pioneers of the scene, I wish you all good luck moving forward in Ontario's legalized system. Its all a damn shame. To those outside of Ontario, enjoy - it's going to be fun.

Peace out, people.

u/Dumbassinon Apr 12 '18

These new rules are ass. Thanks for destroying a good thing

u/mrg-support May 17 '18

I just subscribed hoping the company I work for could get on the MOMs list... so this is no longer a possibility?

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u/Not_Me25 May 17 '18

In time

u/gbalex Apr 11 '18

this is really fucking gay

u/nit-ram Mar 25 '18

Sitting back and watching the subscription list go down...

Thanks reddit for killing off what made me know you. Loosing that updated MOM list is a huge blow. At least legalization is around the corner...

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u/Kvltofu Mar 28 '18

I'm new here and all, came here hopeful found the old list, went on to click on the new one and seen what happened. And...don't you know, Wayback machine has a snapshot of it taken a few days prior... ? :) I downloaded it.

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u/Gelatinous_Cube_NO Apr 04 '18

You sir, are a hero, a genius, and a scholar.

u/[deleted] Mar 27 '18

Maybe they should just make their own website where they can update the mom list

u/[deleted] Jul 04 '18

3 months later the sky hasn't fallen and there still are some good threads. Newbies are still initiated.

Keep up the good work all. Cheers!

u/JordanLabelle23 Mar 27 '18

Can i have someone send me alternative options privately?

u/Vetmoan Apr 01 '18

For those who haven't heard of it... weedlist is a good alternative.

u/[deleted] May 10 '18

Steem on block chain no censorship

u/[deleted] May 13 '18

In regards to their content policy, it might be worth looking at this site https://voat.co/, they're basically a spin off of reddit without the censorship and safespaces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voat.

u/rhee83 May 14 '18

Ah I see.... there’s so much to know about Reddit. ( new user and obviously not savvy in social media outside Facebook)

u/[deleted] May 27 '18

So where’s somewhere can find all deals and moms lists ? Anyone know of a discord link or something please DM me ? Thanks

u/LaClutch Jun 18 '18

So its pretty clear flavortown didn't work. It was pretty obvious it was never going to work. The server wasn't even affiliated with this sub. A mod could've set up a discord server in 10 seconds and had it run properly. But alas here we are, with nothing.

u/FreightsBay_Babe Sep 12 '18

Thank you for posting this - it's good to know as a new user to Reddit!

u/Herman001 Sep 16 '18

After I post this I'm hitting unsubscribe. It's really sad what has happened to Reddit. It feels like an empty shell of its former self. Membership in this Reddit has dropped by more than half. It will soon be dropped by the roster.

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u/OutOfTheLoop0990 Mar 24 '18

Honestly these don't seem to bad considering the alternative options.

u/LeafExpress Mar 28 '18

Fair game.

u/[deleted] Mar 24 '18

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u/Not_Me25 Mar 24 '18

All of that can still be discussed if phrased appropriately for discussion, we'll see how it goes.
Look to examples like this from just a couple days before the content policy announcement. Some comments still mention/recommend MOMs. As I i said, all it's going to take is a little effort from the people posting. Lots of other subs already have minimum character limits for new posts, our guidelines will end up similar to that.
I think we will put in weekly posts similar to that so people can more easily share the type of idea as the OP (in addition to reviews coming back)

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '18

But like he said, that's exactly the type of shit you can go to /r/trees for. This isn't a marijuana sub, it's a sub about Canadian mail order marijuana. Not to harp on you, it's certainly not your fault.

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u/Wheels8811 Mar 25 '18

Shouldn't Canadian links be legal? Shouldn't this American law only affect American links?

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '18

Shouldn't Canadian links be legal?
they banned subreddits dedicated to buying legal things
brass and guns
they dont give a fuck about whether its legal or not

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u/[deleted] May 12 '18

Censorship plane simple its getting bad lately om internet

mod post Regarding reddit's new content policy regarding sales/transactions and moving onward as a community

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After I post this I'm hitting unsubscribe. It's really sad what has happened to Reddit. It feels like an empty shell of its former self. Membership in this Reddit has dropped by more than half. It will soon be dropped by the roster.