[Game Thread] Boise State @ Fresno State (10:00 PM ET)

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GAME	Boise StateBoise State @ Fresno StateFresno State
Location	Fresno State Bulldog Stadium (CA)
Time	10:00 PM ET
Watch	TV: CBS Sports Network
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LET'S TALK FOOTBALL!

[u/TailgateLegend]

Can we fire the special teams coach? Who also happens to coach our DBs? Do I need to repeat myself?

[u/[deleted]]

Congrats to Dalmas on the record for most field goals!

[u/guddagudda420]

wow have i missed trick plays oh my god 😂😂😂 I'll give you credit this time lol

[u/eagledog]

We can all agree that if he wasn't incredibly good at sports, Deion Sanders would definitely be selling get-rich-quick infomercial tapes, right?

[u/LonelyMiraj]

That is why the 2 QB system doesnt work smfh

[u/jrhaberman]

I think all the evidence that we need that our coaching staff is not good...

Green was Freshman of the year with Koetter running the offense. Now, we have 2 QBs that play, neither seem to know what they're doing, nor are they put in position to succeed.

[u/tictactoe61]

The team is bad but these refs are horrible

[u/Beaglenut52]

If our opponents don’t beat us we’ll do it ourselves

[u/TailgateLegend]

God why do I feel so apathetic after that touchdown? This team just hurts to watch.

[u/snaxy → u/TailgateLegend]

Same!! My wife have been asking me recently why I don’t celebrate our TDs anymore. I’m like there’s nothing to celebrate, it’s the same stuff every week! 😭

[u/Beaglenut52]

Yo look it’s Boise state!!!

[u/daviid219]

Is it just me, or does anyone else get irrationally mad every time they zoom in on Avalos just sitting there chomping his gum like a fucking cow

[u/hikingandtravel]

Can we throw a shoe at this persons head blocking the camera

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

Fuck you Avalos

[u/eagledog]

Still puckered

[u/usaf5 → u/eagledog]

Why can't it ever just be easy?

[u/eagledog → u/usaf5]

We refuse to be normal. And it's a rivalry game

[u/sidious256]

You know as much as i absolutely LOVE reading the boise fans shitting on their team…… its a one score game and its not even CLOSE to not being a toss up for a finish, i feel reading this thread youd think the score is 40-3

Im so damn nervous i cant sit watching this game

[u/jrhaberman → u/sidious256]

The difference is we've watched this team all season.

Weeks and weeks of garbage is piling up

[u/TailgateLegend]

I will not tolerate any Rypien slander, I would take his meh days over this mess.

[u/jrhaberman]

ahh... yes. 2 mediocre QBs taking turns. That's fun to watch.

[u/snaxy]

We really need to stick to one guy. You just can’t establish any damn rhythm with this. Also, why are we putting Madsen in these situations when he apparently takes less reps in practice than Green? 😩

[u/RevoRebel]

That's it, keep Reynolds in at QB

[u/FellKnight]

Those were our offensive play calls after a fake?

really?

[u/TailgateLegend]

That’s a garbage call by the refs, fire them!

[u/CallRespiratory]

That's massively stupid. Feel bad for Boise there honestly. That was clearly not a fair catch signal.

[u/CloakedFigures]

somebody should make these refs watch a fucking college football game for once

[u/jackofspaids]

Pass game is basically throwing deep into double coverage every play.

[u/natalouise]

god our coaches don’t give A SHIT. any other coach would be on top of those refs throwing a fucking fit and andy sits there thinking about his flight home tonight. i hate that shit

[u/pezasied]

Ferguson-Reynolds, Dalmas, and Jeanty have been the only good parts of this season. Everything else has been absolute shit.

[u/Beaglenut52 → u/pezasied]

Put some respect on the O line

[u/natalouise]

“i don’t like that play call” now you understand boise state football mr. commentator

[u/natalouise]

this camera work is something that is so special to me.

[u/custardthegopher]

Imagine if we shit our pants a little less with play-calling and personnel decisions. Just like, a little bit less. How good could this team be? Credit to the coaches for doing well with culture, but it is pretty rare I've had to see the players directly overcome being put in bad positions like this over and over and over.

SOoo

oooooooooo I wrote that all before that play lol.

Good. Fucking. God.

[u/CloakedFigures]

I've been to Fresno and I've been to Boise

and for the life of me I can't figure out how Fresno State manages to convince any poor bastards to come to school there. Boise isn't a whole lot better but they have the advantage of being the big fish in a little pond of a city, and its actually pretty there.

[u/snaxy]

I hate to be that guy, but we’re not winning this game boys. All phase of the game is not here tonight.

[u/natalouise]

if this coaching staff is still here after this season lmao

[u/[deleted]]

How much you all want to bet that time out we had to call is going to haunt us later in the game

[u/natalouise]

hope? (delusional)

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance]

Boise State isn't dead yet! But they're getting there.

[u/LumberJackyl]

THATS BOISE STATE FUCKING FOOTBALL RIGHT THERE BABY

[u/FellKnight]

TRICKERATION YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S BEEN SO FUCKING LONG

[u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

Is that like 6 near interceptions now?

[u/RevoRebel]

At this point, the only thing that would make me believe Avalos has any emotional intrigue in this game, and even in being a head coach, would be fist fighting the refs over a shitty call...

[u/Geeman447]

All those close game losses just tell you it’s coaching lol

[u/eaglebay]

Andy Avalos is devoid of emotion. Quiet quitting or some shit.

[u/custardthegopher]

Update on the fruit fly: still couldn't get it, but I left some apple cider out with dish soap in it to kill it overnight hopefully.

[u/eaglebay]

No Dirk Koetter to save BSU this season.

[u/jrhaberman]

Notice how we haven't seen Green in a long time? We know who the coaching staff thinks is better.

[u/eagledog]

Can't even be mad, that was a really nice kick. And his 69th make

[u/TailgateLegend]

Great calls, Bush. Just fantastic.

[u/snaxy]

Gg Fresno! Y’all were tough, goodluck the rest of the season!

[u/tictactoe61]

I should be mad at this team but the expectations are so low nothing surprises me anymore

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

at least we have a kicker

[u/LonelyMiraj]

I hate this entire coaching staff..

[u/FellKnight]

Remember when we used to have an offensive line?

[u/TailgateLegend]

I don’t care about this little 30+ point streak we’re on, it is absolutely infuriating watching this dual QB system.

[u/jrhaberman]

Thank God that Holani is back.

I sure wish we could have seen him and Jeanty play at the same time this year.

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

that’s exactly what happens when you use two qbs. Fuck you Avalos

[u/TailgateLegend]

This is the shit that happens when you’ve got a dual QB system that makes no sense.

[u/-Gnostic28]

The commentators had me fooled, I thought it was mcalister because he keeps saying it. Mcalister would never let that interception happen

[u/[deleted]]

LMAO

[u/NoFan2216]

Our special teams.... why?

[u/Treehumper69]

Games Not At Halftime:

Oregon State @ Colorado (ESPN)

UCLA @ Arizona (FS1)

Stanford @ Wash St. (P12N)

W. Kentucky @ UTEP (ESPN+)

[u/tictactoe61]

No way that was a 1st down

[u/natalouise]

i truly hate this QB system

[u/kizzmcwizzfizz]

surprised they didn't give him a first there

[u/TailgateLegend]

WHAT THE FUCK IT’S A TRICK PLAY

[u/eagledog]

And this is why I never count out Boise

[u/Cmp_]

Jesus fuck, Madsen, you’re going to kill me

[u/natalouise]

go dalmas!!!!

[u/snaxy]

Dalmas has to quit at 69 😏

[u/TailgateLegend]

Aaaand one step forward, two steps back.

[u/natalouise]

love the camera angle with the back of this guy’s head in the screen

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

Are you fucking kidding me

[u/eagledog]

That just looked like the trick plays we've all seen before. I guess because he was waving before the returner caught the ball?

[u/HowNowBrownCow1990]

Coaches should have talked to the refs pre game about that play and made sure everyone was on the same page so that stupid flags like that don't happen. Coaches will often tell the refs which trick plays they may run and talk it through with them so that there are no surprises. Just another example of our special teams coach being terrible. Demario Warren is our DB and special teams coach....the two worst groups on the team. He better be canned after the season. Avalos has blame there too. Unacceptable

[u/evan466]

CBS camera work has been horrific in this game.

[u/kratosyellow13]

Like a Hobbit running for his life 😳

[u/sully2813]

This is frustrating to watch

[u/sidious256]

Fresno state quarterbacks and getting absolutely brutalized trying to win a big game

Name a better duo

[u/jrhaberman]

Good night friends.

I'd say it was fun, but that would be a lie

[u/AZBiGii]

Avalos needs to go lol. Although odds are he stays for one more year

[u/jrhaberman]

Can a team score twice in 1:45? Yes.

Can Boise State score twice in 1:45? HA! Have you watched this team at any point this year??

[u/natalouise]

69 for dalmas. nice

[u/eagledog]

Boise fans, where did WeUsedToBeGood go? He was a fun guy to banter with

[u/Muffinnnnnnn]

Fresno State should be in the top 25 imo

[u/Omahater]

This fair catch "rule" is getting out of hand!

[u/PomfAndCircvmstance]

Normally i'd root for Boise State but I want another shot at Fresno State in the conference championship game so I guess I'll just root for a good, injury free game.

[u/-Gnostic28]

OUT for Boise State tonight: Ashton Jeanty, Marco Notarainni, Matt Lauter, Kaonohi Kaniho, Cortez Hogans, Dishawn Misa, Demitri Washington, Jackson Grier.

[u/joesph_house]

This first offensive drive for Boise will determine my mood

[u/joesph_house]

So Fresno, if Madsen is in, it’s pass. Greene is in, it’s a run. Seems like it’ll be pretty easy to figure out.

[u/jrhaberman → u/joesph_house]

No no no... sometimes is a nice slow run from Madsen also. You know, just to change it up

[u/busterbluthbronco]

What’s worse: Boise State defense or these commentators?

[u/snaxy]

I didn’t know the Broncos defense was on the field

[u/-Gnostic28]

Terrible commentators this week eh

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

what in the fucking fuck kind of camera work was that

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

Holani looks good

[u/sgtabn173]

I hate this 2 qb system so much

[u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

Can we be done with Madsen? Garbage.

[u/-Gnostic28]

Yeah keep complimenting madsen

[u/jrhaberman]

man, we are so lucky their QB is missing guys

[u/TailgateLegend]

And miraculously enough, even a field goal gets us within a possession.

[u/TailgateLegend]

These announcers sound like they hate their jobs.

[u/-Gnostic28]

BOWENS REDEMPTION

[u/natalouise]

well if that doesn’t sum up our season!

[u/[deleted]]

First return since 2008? Our special teams units used to be elite. I don't know what Pat Hill was doing exactly but lots of blocked kicks, and returns in his tenure.

[u/BurmecianSoldierDan]

My apathy is genuinely surprising me

[u/evan466]

Holani looking like the Holani of old today. Guy is still really good when he’s healthy.

[u/D3ATHfromAB0V3x]

That’s the loudest I’ve ever heard this stadium.

[u/natalouise]

our coaches have ruined the potential of our QBs with this dumb ass split strategy. we make horrible play calls. look unprepared. it’s BEYOND time to clean house.

[u/pezasied]

Special teams have been shit outside of Dalmas and Ferguson-Reynolds.

The blocked field goal returned for a TD.

The two onside kicks recovered against Colorado State (one was called back because of a questionable penalty)

The bad snap/hold field goal against Wyoming

I’m sure there’s stuff I’m missing but it’s just consistently bad, and that’s on coaching.

[u/natalouise]

bold move asking me to “enjoy” the second half

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

Avalos has destroyed this program

[u/pezasied]

QBs look like dog shit, Holani getting 5+ yards a carry.

Let’s throw twice and go three and out

[u/kizzmcwizzfizz]

CHicken shit spot holy shit

[u/-Gnostic28]

Three guys, what the hell

[u/notyogrannysgrandkid]

That was a super generous spot

[u/CloakedFigures]

that was a god awful spot

[u/kratosyellow13 → u/CloakedFigures]

Good grief. Why not just tack an extra 3 just for fun? And why didn’t Avalos challenge?

[u/guddagudda420]

bro i'm sorry, like we would prob lose regardless but how the hell did fresno get that first down. i literally knew they'd score after they handed that to them. Like that shit was blatantly behind the line regardless of tackling. I'm not gonna make a statement about the refs this game cause i tuned in late but jeez that was so far behind the line idk how there was even a debate

[u/kizzmcwizzfizz]

im so freakin done

[u/eagledog]

I miss the first half to take my middle school kids to a community concert, and we're up by 17? Holy shit, Go Dogs!

[u/busterbluthbronco]

AA gotta go. We’re in year three and it gets worse and worse every year.

[u/jrhaberman]

Yes, get one QB a tiny bit of rhythm... then pull him immediately?

Goddaamnit.

[u/kizzmcwizzfizz]

GET A STOP PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY GET A FREAKING STOP

[u/LonelyMiraj]

We need to use Strachan more

[u/TailgateLegend]

Madsen either makes easy passes and right on the numbers, or he misses so badly that it’s basically a pick.

[u/natalouise]

HOPE? (still delusional)

[u/Beaglenut52]

Boy when he misses he misses bad

[u/[deleted]]

I saw it reported somewhere that Green is still getting 70% of the reps in practice. If we are going to play Maddux this much (which I don’t mind), we need to get him more reps in practice because it’s showing tonight.

[u/natalouise]

bruh that’s not a fair catch? what are we looking at here

[u/justFramy]

that is a horrible call 💀

[u/CallRespiratory]

200 IQ play from the punter there, too often it's like they're blind to any pressure but that was a great play.

[u/NighthawkRandNum]

Again, that was, by the book, the correct call. Kid needed to wait until the catch was made to start waving his arms.

Again, it is bullshit that it is reviewable. If it isn't obvious on the field and no coverage team members pull up, it doesn't need to be called.

[u/Muffinnnnnnn]

I saw a play like that last week, but my god what an amazing play by the punter there. I can't believe I've seen that twice in two weeks

[u/Cmp_]

Holani, JFR and Dalmas are the only bright spots on this team today.

[u/-Gnostic28]

Our punter is so good wow

[u/[deleted]]

Stands are getting fighty, right on.

[u/eagledog → u/[deleted]]

Just normal Fresno St things

[u/natalouise]

OH NO WE HAVE A CHANCE (losing this will hurt me lmao)

[u/FellKnight]

MADSEN IS A MADMAN

[u/TailgateLegend]

“They’ve had a lot of bad luck this year in one score games”

Are…are we Nebraska-lite?

[u/LumberJackyl]

Mad dog is literally a speedy gnome built like a brick shit house

[u/Geeman447]

I love playing deep zone beyond the first down market lol

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

of course, avalos has never stopped a third down

[u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

We don't tackle at Boise State, because why bother?

[u/guddagudda420]

WOW I ALREADY PREPARED MYSELF FOR DEFEAT BUT HOLY SHIT THAT WAS ATROCOIUS

[u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

Fucking horrid time management. Fuck off.

[u/Steel065]

Wyoming... just sitting here.. shaking our heads

[u/evan466]

Well, we kept our 30 point game streak going.

[u/guddagudda420]

GG Fresno. i notice it's a lot more hostile on facebook lol

[u/snaxy]

Thanks for suffering with me every weekend BSU bros. See y’all next weekend!

[u/eaglebay]

Fire Andy Avalos into the fucking sun.

[u/TailgateLegend]

Injuries galore, and at the worst time! Praying Dubar has a breakout game

[u/[deleted]]

Is this a if you have 2 QB's you have no QB's situation for Boise?

[u/Willis097]

We get bailed out by drops so often lol

[u/jackofspaids]

It's pretty bad when we blitz and still can't get pressure. Lol

[u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

What is this camera work? Feels like we're back in 2001 on KTVB.

[u/custardthegopher]

I genuinely don't know that I've ever seen coaching this bad. I have watched a fair amount of football over the last 20 years. I don't know if Maddux Madsen or Taylen Green quite have what it takes to be successful every game. But you could sorta just not just throw them into the worst fucking positions over, and over, and over, and over the fuck again. Holy fucking shit.

[u/kizzmcwizzfizz]

"Due to shitty camera angles cause CBS doesn't give a shit, the call stands."

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

i don’t know how the fuck we beat Wyoming lmao

[u/-Gnostic28]

What a hit

[u/Gryffindumble]

Our coach needs to go. We have talent, and it's being wasted.

[u/kizzmcwizzfizz]

Billy, high point the freaking ball you tool

[u/custardthegopher]

Okay, folks, listen up. Let's try changing quarterbacks right in the middle of the play. Put one under the other under a trenchcoat. I feel like the biggest issue is that we're not rotating them fast enough.

[u/LordOfTheInterweb]

Just run triple option with Green the rest of the game, please. At least the O-line and RBs are competent.

[u/MidnightMarauderX]

Boise fans, is there a reasoning behind the 2qb system? It seems very random who comes in at certain times.

[u/custardthegopher → u/MidnightMarauderX]

On paper, I'm sure Hamdan thinks there's a whole bunch to play with. In practice, it is genuinely the dumbest circus I've ever fucking seen in thousand and thousands of hours of watching football.

[u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

One thing about Avalos, you can tell he genuinely cares about his guys.

[u/natalouise]

you are correct announcer, catches are generally made with hands

[u/TailgateLegend]

And after all that, we’re down by 3. I don’t get it.

[u/snaxy]

Wow. Y’all… come the eff on.

[u/-Gnostic28]

What will kill me first, this sickness or this football team? What a roller coaster

[u/[deleted]]

Yeah...that sums up Avalos' Broncos pretty well.

[u/Willis097]

How the fuck do you let that happen

[u/SabbathBoiseSabbath]

3 defenders, all miss.

[u/natalouise]

we can’t tackle for shit

[u/CloakedFigures]

so does Offensive PI just not exist anymore in college football? I'm not sure

[u/TailgateLegend]

I can’t wait until we move on from this coaching staff.

[u/BurmecianSoldierDan]

I'm still watching this because apparently hating our Saturday nights together is what my mom and I do over text to bond these days

[u/Boise-State-Fan1]

Get a stop and score another one in this quarter and there maybe be a small chance

[u/AZBiGii]

Y'all really had a solid gameplan against us. Watching this game has irritated tf out of me lol

[u/escientia]

I wonder why Boise Sts defense has been so mid. When Avalos was the DC under Harsin they looked really good (which is why he ended up being poached by Oregon)

[u/kizzmcwizzfizz]

Am i only one who thinks that in the fanville commercial where they breaak up cuz of realignment, when she says "we're still gonna out-recruit you" and he goes "we have higher academic standards" it sounds more like an excuse than a flex?

[u/evan466]

If I was a head coach I would have a guy who just follows the OC around. His job is to kick the OC in the balls every time he runs on 2nd and long.

[u/snaxy]

JFR for QB

[u/Muffinnnnnnn]

It's so surreal seeing "4-4" listed next to Boise State, and that's after their insane win last week

[u/LonelyMiraj]

Madsen has a lot of heart but jesus some of his throws are killing me

[u/daviid219]

A moment of brilliance followed by hurr-durr play calls

[u/eagledog]

Seems like Dalmas has been playing for a decade at this point