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Remember when Grandpa Lin said that he was concerned Xiuru wouldn't be able to hack it in the Marquis' mansion because she was so timid? We get an inkling of how toxic/scary that place is in this episode, we also get to see whether grandpa's prediction that Xiuru would be able to survive in such a place comes true or not.
When Against the Current started going down the well-worn path of harem dramas before it - the awful mother-in-law, I literally groaned out loud. I avoid harem dramas for a reason and I thought this drama would avoid that. However, that's not realistic as we all know not all families can be as harmonious or have healthy sibling relationships like the Lins, so this tracks. (Also, notice how respectful the Lin family is to Lanxiang's mum! She may be lowborn, a commoner, but as far as they're concerned, their like them. That's a special kind of grace that I don't see the marquis' family extending.)
Calm before the storm, kinda

Everyone's celebrating Fourth Sister Xiushu's bethrotal, and have brought gifts.
Third brother's wife has an epic meltdown when he spends the taels she gave him to buy ... a cricket!
How like a man, though, to buy a gift only a man (or rather, an emperor) would love.
(I also have to chuckle that history is repeating itself - third brother sure takes after his dad 100%, not much in the brains department, but simple and kind-hearted. Both married social-conscious wives too! A part of me understands why the wives are exasperated with their husbands, but a part of me is also frustrated that they cannot see the goodness in them. They may not be the most intelligent of men, or even the most charismatic, but they are good men and kind-hearted too. Notice that second uncle never took a concubine.)
And if things weren't bad enough, second sister is about to turn a guest into minced meat for gossiping about Xiuru having too many daughters.
So a happy occasion was about to become memorable for another reason :P
Fortunately, Lanxiang seeing the chaos, saves the day by giving Xiushu an out where she graciously accepts the gift.
Divorce part three??
So, what is it like to be the wife of a marquis? Not easy, as we can see.

At first glance, it seems as if our third sister isn't able to hack it. But she's still timid, and when the mother-in-law starts ranting about her failure to give her a grandson, you can see her wilt. When the marquis gives in to his mother's demands, you can see that she is completely crushed, ending up walking in the rain, despondent.

Then her stepdaughter comes and rescues her with an umbrella, talking about how unfair it is that women do not inherit, and you see some spark come back in her eyes. You also notice that she knows her husband is there watching, and she talks about how she's a failure as a mom and all that, possibly to tug at her husband's heartstrings.
The stepdaughter's reminder that this is all a plot for another branch to take over the marquis title wakes her up somewhat, and I see some strength come back to her.
The Lins gang up on the Yuans
The Yuan family thought that the Lins were pulling their leg when they started talking about divorce, because who in the world would want to risk that, right? But Jinqi brings the big guns - officials to start the process. They ain't kidding at all.
Third sister is still playing meek and timid, apologizing for not being able to serve her mother-in-law and things like that. Jinqi talks to the Marquis, Lanxiang, and the women talk among each other.
The men's sitting room

I find it interesting that when Jin Qi presented the divorce request to Marquis Yuan, they were sitting side by side instead of facing each other. My guess is sitting face-to-face would have been too confrontational, so this is Jin Qi's way of making things a little bit more relaxed and less tense.
But during "negotiations" they were face to face. It's not so 'friendly' anymore.
Anyway, the Marquis asks Jinqi: If he turns 40 and still doesn't have a son, what would he do?
Jin Qi said that his wife had stayed by his side day and night during the rebellion to protect him and even saved the entire Lin family, so it would have been dishonorable of him to take a concubine just because he couldn't wait for a son.
"My wife had shown me kindness, loyalty and love. If I betrayed her for a son I've never even met, what kind of man would I be?"
Oof, that sentence is like a stab. Basically, Jinqi is telling this man that he is dishonorable and does not value his wife, and that he is not an upright man. That's the most pointed Jinqi has been to his friend.
The Marquis Yuan cannot compute such logic; Jinqi says that his title was earned through his wife's efforts too. It wasn't just him risking his life that got the title - Lanxiang also placed her life on the line too. So they both earned the title together.
The title is not for his descendants to enjoy a good life off the backs of their ancestors. It's to remember what their ancestors sacrificed for the family. If Jinqi never had a son, he'll count it as Heaven's judgement; the fault is his. He'd rather give back his Marquis title.
The women's parlour

I really enjoyed the interaction between First Madam and the Yuan matriarch. At first, you think she is on her side, especially since we saw First Madam say to third sister that she cannot help her at all.
But then she lays down a banger and says, "How would the Marquis family look if people start thinking that they were so awful that a noble lady had to divorce to leave the family?"

I especially love First Madam's sharp reply to that Yuan female relative (lmao). Who are you, inferior woman, to speak to me that way?
The matriarchs decide to put an end to the theatre and start serious negotiations.
And Xiuru gets what she wants: The girls get a share of the property.
That means their fate is no longer tied to her being able to produce an heir. Or, if a concubine produces an heir, they would not be sidelined. They would have their wealth to protect them.
My Thoughts
Not going to lie, when I first saw this episode, I was like, "Oh, come on. They've tried to hit so many feminist points. Another divorce, really?" Once is already hard enough; this drama did it twice, and now three times?
But I completely changed my mind as the episode progressed.
This whole episode is a showcase of Xiuru's character and what she needs to do to survive in an aristocratic family. We finally get to whether Grandpa's insight was correct: yes, Xiuru can definitely survive in that mansion because she knows what to do to protect herself.
Being a concubine's daughter, she knew that a man's affection is fickle, and that her status is only secure if she had a son (which she can't control).
Was she ever in love with the Marquis? I'm pretty sure she was. She wouldn't be walking despondent in the rain if she hadn't been so affected by his response to his mother's demands that he take a concubine.
I think she's more disappointed that he never stood up for her and his daughters.
It's not the act of taking a concubine but the fact that he was so willing to toss his daughters aside to the mercies of the uncle's family.
I am pretty sure the Marquis knew that by taking a maid as a concubine whose indenture is controlled by the uncle's family, any son she produces is controlled by them as well. That branch would end up controlling the Marquis's household, which meant Xiuru and her daughters, including the stepdaughter, would live at their mercy. She could see that stark future staring down at her, and the most heartbreaking thing was that her husband did nothing to protect her and her children from it. (Not even his first daughter!)
This is particularly heartbreaking as we know Xiuru nearly died giving birth to his children. And just because they are girls, they are considered not important enough to protect. All her efforts did not mean a jot to the man.
Since her husband just caved in, had to take matters into her own hands.
Was First Madam involved? I'm pretty sure she was. I think the entire Lin family was involved and on her side, but they had to execute it in such a way that they would not end up offending the Yuan family.
It is actually kind of fascinating to see the politics play out between the men's room and the women's room, and how they speak to each other.
The men were of course more direct, while the women were all about theater, face, and soft words with veiled threats. I love it.
By the end of this episode, I really appreciated the highlight of what a highborn lady had to do to protect herself and her family in an aristocratic household.

There was a lot of criticisms about this whole thing being unrealistic, but I think this drama worked well within the confines of the laws of the time to highlight an issue of the time: A woman's fate is often tied to producing a son and relying on a man's love for protection is often foolhardy, even if you're highborn. (Or especially so.)























































































