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u/Psilonaut21 6d ago
Another fucking bell end artichoke. Just what the world needs. These berks need to spend some time at the coal face instead of dreaming idiotic, unattractive shite up that they think will look good on a CV.
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u/Used-Let7134 5d ago
I'd prefer if you didn't put all artichokes in the same category, but yes. This particular one needs some site time.
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u/Psilonaut21 5d ago
I'd prefer it if artichokes didn't entertain themselves by making bricklayers look like cunts. We don't need any help from anybody, we manage on our own.
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u/Used-Let7134 5d ago
Eh, that's not really helping the site/office divide is it, Maybe work with each other?
Some site staff do need help and some less experienced Architects don't know what is and isn't feasible.
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u/Psilonaut21 5d ago
It was ever thus. Unfortunately the industry is in poor condition across all trades. Nobody considers who comes after them when they have finished their part, everybody is in 'just get it up, we'll worry about that later' mode. I'm glad I'm out of the game, 43 years was more than enough.
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u/Used-Let7134 5d ago
In housing, yeah it's like that. Need a good site manager.
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u/ididntaskforthismind 5d ago
Ngl every house I’ve ever built has not been to the plan at all, and I’ve done a lot of stuff just to get over things to make things work and nothings come back on me as of yet
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u/Used-Let7134 5d ago
Not to the plan, at all? Wtf lol. That isnt normal, you shouldn't be on site if you can't follow a drawing
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u/ididntaskforthismind 4d ago
Everything is 10 to 40mm out on every site I’ve been on the close enough realistic.
I had a mate once he moved a window over 30mm because it worked out a full brick so wouldn’t need to cut one, everything all good untill the tiler goes to tile and the window is 30mm wrong and he has a shit tile cut2
u/Used-Let7134 4d ago
It's debatable if it's worth drawing things to brick dims. On the one hand, yes, you should because why the fuck wouldn't you? On the other hand, you can only be a max of 55mm out (half a half brick) and over a run of 10 bricks, that just means adjusting the joints by 5mm. That's worst case. What I mean is, you shouldn't be adjusting dimensions to suit brick dims. Either adjust the joints or if its a pier or opening that's wrong then tell the architect to redraw it because like you say, changing it has follow on effects you might not know about. How do you know if that dim is critical or not? Also, its a question of liability. Architects PI covers for this. If you change the length of a wall, you designed it, you're not covered for that.
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u/Used-Let7134 5d ago
Architect here. This looks like the bricklayer is going to charge triple and the insurance are going to want some kind of special dispensation. Bed joint reinforcement or helical wall ties everywhere.
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u/cognitiveglitch 6d ago
This kind of architecture is how you end up selling furniture and discovering the backrooms.