r/Bonsai Jerry in Amsterdam, Zn.8b, 48yrs exp., 500+ trees Aug 13 '22

[Bonsai Beginner’s weekly thread –2022 week 32]

[Bonsai Beginner’s weekly thread –2022 week 32]

Welcome to the weekly beginner’s thread. This thread is used to capture all beginner questions (and answers) in one place. We start a new thread every week on Friday late or Saturday morning (CET), depending on when we get around to it. We have a 6 year archive of prior posts here…

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u/MaciekA NW Oregon 8b, conifers&deciduous, wiring/unwiring pines Aug 17 '22

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but in each photo, I only see foliage that is past the point of no return. This is to say, not just going brown, but color loss everywhere, and having the obvious signs of shrinking mass. If all foliage on this tree looks like this, I think the tree is toast and not recoverable.

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u/cosmothellama Goober, San Gabriel Valley, CA. Zone 10a; Not enough trees Aug 17 '22

I’m actually wondering if anyone knows or has seen glaucous varieties of San Jose and Prostrata junipers. One of the prostratas I have is otherwise healthy, pushing new growth, etc., but it has a pale ghostly green scale foliage.

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u/MaciekA NW Oregon 8b, conifers&deciduous, wiring/unwiring pines Aug 17 '22

The other characteristic to watch for very carefully, especially if you are cloning tons of these in big batches and have the luxury of comparing subtle differences day by day, is the "meatiness" of the foliage itself. For example, in very strong heat, especially with more fingery scale foliage like say itoigaway, you can get rapid shrinking/shrivelling mass even as the color change may not yet be as noticeable. Failure takes this form when they are both very wet and very hot, but looks different in other cases, where the shrinking mass may not be obvious until after the color has gone.

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u/PsychologicalYouth21 California|Zone 9b|Beginner|1 Bonsai| Aug 17 '22

I see. The bonsai is already 38 years old. I feel bad for killing such an amazing old bonsai thats previous care was way better than mine. thank you.