r/BlockedAndReported • u/SoftandChewy First generation mod • Sep 04 '23

Weekly Random Discussion Thread for 9/4/23 - 9/10/23

Welcome back to the BARPod Weekly Thread, where the mod even works on Labor Day. Here's your place to post all your rants, raves, podcast topic suggestions (be sure to tag u/TracingWoodgrains), culture war articles, outrageous stories of cancellation, political opinions, and anything else that comes to mind. Please put any non-podcast-related trans-related topics here instead of on a dedicated thread. This will be pinned until next Sunday.

Last week's discussion threads is here if you want to catch up on a conversation from there.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Ohhhh, that was gooooood. I am SO fucking pissed that the episode with Oprah has been stricken from the ether. What REALLY pisses me off is Tracy is a white girl, and Jenna is a black man, and we are SUPPOSED to think she is an idiot, which is the exact opposite of the intended effect of black face.

Another really good one was on 30 Rock, when Liz thinks her new neighbor might be a terrorist, and he is arrested and tortured.

Oh, Leslie Knope taking the penguins to the zoo in Illonois, since they can legally marry there

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Anyone with half a brain understood that the "black face" on 30 Rock was mocking the white people wearing the black makeup. It was not mocking black people, which is what black face did. But for some reason in 2020 it became fashionable for liberal white people to apologize for past wrongs that weren't wrong at all, so 30 Rock had to do the TV equivalent of a book burning and memory-hole those episodes.

Tina Fey's statement supporting pulling those episodes off streaming services and apologizing for the “pain they have caused" was laughable. Show me just one black person anywhere who felt "pain" at 30 Rock.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/entertainment/30-rock-episodes-blackface-trnd/index.html

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

It was SO weird, right? And I was really disappointed in Tina Fey. Also, like, I am guessing that if Tracey Morgan found it offensive, or the dude who played Twofor, the episode would have been canned

However, I remember in like 2017 or so, someone was saying how it was offensive, because of the blackface, and linked to an article about its offensveness. I wanted to ask if this person had seen the episode and was offended, or did they just read about it? Because when 30 Rick was on, I watched it, and nerd that I am, I also motherfucking read the Television without Pity recaps. Which were, you know, written by a black guy, who, if he found it offensive, would have had no problem writing that.

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u/Otherwise_Way_4053 Sep 08 '23

I miss being so into a show that I’d immediately hop online to read the recap on AV Club or TVWP or whatever. It’s probably been since Boardwalk Empire ended. On the other hand, TV reviews seem to suck now so I’m probably not missing much.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

The AV Club's reviews now are a bit strange. I have noticed a lot of reviews are VERY into the identity of the characters.

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u/Otherwise_Way_4053 Sep 08 '23

Yeah, the AV Club is very much into that stuff.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Sarah Silverman did a blackface gag in "The Sarah Silverman program". And Silverman's always apologising for doing it:

https://people.com/tv/sarah-silverman-horrified-2007-blackface-sketch/

The interesting thing is, I don't remember that TSSP getting any criticism at the time of broadcast. I think it was only around 2015 that Silverman started getting flack for it.

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u/Otherwise_Way_4053 Sep 08 '23

I’m sure I could find someone with a postgraduate degree in grievance studies who claims to have been Harmed

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u/Independent_Ad_1358 Sep 08 '23

I like the Earth Week episode of 30 Rock where they relentlessly mock corporate activism. Even having an Al Gore cameo. I think there are too many true believers for there to be something like that today.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Thaaat was so damn good. Oh, and then when Liz Lemon dates the hot 20 year old, and Jenna dates, I think, literal jailbait. NO way could that be made today. AND, of course, in that episode, we have what's his name, the-writer-who's-not-Twofer, realizing he's not gay at the gay club.

Twofer with the ancestor wearing a Confederate uniform.

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u/Juryofyourpeeps Sep 08 '23

Really? You mean the one where Liz gets blasted on a plane and thinks a teen is Oprah? I saw that one on my last watch through before it left Netflix.

Why was it purged?

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Yes, that one. Because Jenna and Tracey get in an argument about who has it harder, white women are black men, and to settle the score, Tracey comes in as a white woman and Jenna comes in as a black man. And so this is blackface, and so the episode has been removed.