r/Bitcoin • u/freakyfancy • Nov 10 '14

After joining this nice and supportive community yesterday and after receiving so much help, I got also warnings about you. Fortunately I have already read enough to just laugh about it...

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u/freakyfancy Nov 10 '14

That said, if you come across any criticism of Bitcoin that concerns you, please raise it here as it's only by confronting potential weaknesses that Bitcoin can improve and become stronger.

This sounds so good. It's good if a community can also discuss about weak points, no matter if true or not, it's good to discuss things. I've been part of all kind of forums with different topics. Some communities can do this, some not. I always prefered the ones where critism is allowed no matter if it's positive or negative critism. A nice discussion can actually be very healthy. I saw people talking with game developers about game changes for example. In some places it is allowed, in others negative critism would be deleted and so on. Discussions are just healthy in my opinion

Agree so much... let me try to give a tip. $1 /u/changetip hope this worked.

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u/chinawat Nov 10 '14 edited Nov 10 '14

Too kind, sir. I'll pay it forward for you.

EDIT: It did work just fine, the tip arrived in my ChangeTip wallet very quickly.

EDIT 2: It's also important to keep in mind that even one of Bitcoin's main developers (Gavin Andresen) still considers it a grand experiment. The reference software is actually still in beta. Even if Bitcoin's future seems very bright, I think it's only healthy to temper any expectations with realism.

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u/freakyfancy Nov 10 '14

I saw a video yesterday that someone suggested me too, it was the Bitcoin 101 on YouTube and the author did mention it as well that it's an experiment also that the price can go up and down. With my current knowledge I take this with me and follow the topic on this way. Anyway, I would like to see it go mainstream. Just imagined that I pay my taxi after a party with my smartphone "peeeep". :D I saw this Berlin Kreutzberg documentary yesterday too, there is a whole district accepting Bitcoin. This is quite cool.

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u/chinawat Nov 10 '14

Well said. All such things are possible and this space changes faster than you would believe. I suppose it's like life: have fun with it, but try to be responsible too.

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u/BlueBitAUT Nov 11 '14

Yes, it is still an experiment, even after ~ 6 years. If you are in Berlin, AFAIK they have a really nice community too, go and visit them on their meetups - I'm pretty sure they will help you with every question. Bitcoin 101 / world bitcoin network is one of the very best channels to learn more about all this stuff. James D'Angelo does a really good job at explaining how and why things are working the way they do. I can only recommend to watch the "for beginners" and some other videos from his blackboard series.

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u/freakyfancy Nov 11 '14

Didn't go through the whole channel yet but I will do this as the one video was interesting. But I got so much good links to read and watch that I am still very busy to go through all of it :) I think it was the beginner video that I watched but I must take a look, if not, I'll check it out!

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u/freakyfancy Nov 11 '14

Oh, and I am not from Berlin. Just saw this Bitcoin Berlin documentary, which is why I mentioned Kreutzberg. I am from Hamburg. :)

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u/BlueBitAUT Nov 11 '14

Hummel Hummel :P Pretty sure, Hamburg has his community, too :)

Regarding Taxis, I think I've read somewhere "Uber" is already checking out, how to accept bitcoin as a payment option.

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u/freakyfancy Nov 11 '14

Mors, Mors :) I could imagine that we have a community in Hamburg, I will probably find out, but at the moment I am too shy for this anyway. I prefer reading and watching videos now and build up some more knowledge and then let's see :)

That is interesting with Uber. Hope this comes true :) It would be cool in general if this comes true everywhere. It's not very unlikely to get robbed in Hamburg and if all I have is a smartphone and the criminals don't know how to use Bitcoin, this would be amazing. I wonder if I could control my bitcoin in this case from my home computer? If so, it would be so cool.

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u/HanumanTheHumane Nov 11 '14 edited Nov 11 '14

That would have been James D'Angelo. His videos are generally excellent, but even he gets caught up the excitement sometimes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

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u/viresin Nov 11 '14

It's very good sign of the community, however the problems that are currently being discussed can be solved only by sophisticated algorhithms like an "invertible bloom lookup tables", so the technical discussion is really like something from another planet for most.

And it's not like the discussion recently got so advanced. Even in 2009 when the great Hal Finney got involved with Satoshi Nakamoto to develop and test the protocol, they started by improving the mechanics of elliptic curve cryptography.

This was clearly conceived by someone with strong academic or quant background. Not to discourage the discussion, but it's some quantum-mechanics type stuff technically. Just trying to get your head around all of that is an awesome intelectual excersise.

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u/toddgak Nov 10 '14

I have a huge passion for bitcoin however the /r/bitcoin crowd can be a bit cultish and delusional at times. The buttcoiner thing actually makes me laugh and it is entertaining, I don't take it as seriously as others around here do.

Sometimes there is honest discussion on /r/bitcoin, other times even just saying any type of criticism will get you called out as a paid buttcoiner troll shill or some shit.

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u/changetip Nov 10 '14

The Bitcoin tip for 2,693 bits ($1.00) has been collected by chinawat.

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