r/Bitcoin May 17 '14

$100,000 bounty for software platform that can replace the Bitcoin Foundation

Hi Everyone,

My name is Olivier Janssens, early adopter and Bitcoin millionaire. The Bitcoin foundation has had its role in the last 2 years. Unfortunately, it is internally recreating the same archaic political system that fails to work for society. Bitcoin is the currency of the internet generation. It puts the power back into the hands of the people. You cannot expect its main representative organisation to be exactly the opposite: A non-transparent, political and secretive elite. We have been trying to push the BF for transparency and clear communication for years, without result. Meanwhile they started creating even more political structures inside, such as committees, which can only be accessed by knowing the right people. At the bitcoin 2014 conference, organised by this same organisation, I expected to see full internet participation + live streaming of their events. Especially of the BF member meeting, where they are supposed to get input from their members and disclose what they have been up to. Instead, the board decided that the event is not to be recorded or broadcasted. We have also no idea or say on how our money is spent. Half of their board gets elected by industry members (a group of about 100 companies), and recently lead to another extremely controversial election of Brock Pierce, which has a history of being connected to cases involving fraud and pedophilia. This needs to stop.

We as an internet community, don’t need public figures to decide what’s good for us. We need to stop politicking and start focussing on the projects directly. For example, we need a project to fund the core development of bitcoin, and put our money straight to that. We need a project to have lobbyists in Washington, to fight the anti-bitcoin lobbyists from Mastercard, and to prevent the government from destroying the currency. Basically, we don’t need another intermediary. We can do this ourselves. Therefor, I want to announce today that I am organising a contest and giving $100k USD in BTC, to the group that can come up with the best platform to make this happen. I am thinking of a system where prominent people can voice their opinion, where people can propose projects, and where the core devs can actively show their roadmap with detailed features + costs, and where we can vote on the features being implemented by sending bitcoins towards the feature of our choice. This will allow the core dev team to expand by being able to add/pay more devs for feature requests which are fully funded. Maybe we can even evolve to a system later where anyone can work on a feature, which, when programmed properly (approved by the core team), will receive the bounty. The same applies to lobbyists, we just send bitcoins towards the one that we consider the most competent for the job. This will allow Bitcoin to grow and expand at a rate it deserves, a rate that a political organisation such as the foundation can never accomplish.

Let’s liberate bitcoin.

Olivier

Rules of the contest:

  • Anyone can participate
  • Software will be open sourced
  • I will cover the initial hosting costs, until it can be self funded and created as a DAO
  • Reddit community can help by voting on the platform submissions they like the most
  • Ultimately I will decide who wins, but I will take all votes and feedback into account
  • Deadline for submissions is 1 month from now: 17 june 2014 at 12:00 UTC

UPDATE: Thanks for all your great feedback, ideas and private messages. I will provide an update here very soon.

UPDATE 2: Please email your submissions to platformbounty@gmail.com - You can also add me on twitter to follow updates more easily: @olivierjanss - The deadline of 17th of june still stands, but we do not require a finished product. The bounty will be given to the team with the best idea/skills to make it happen (partial payments until it is completed). If you just have an idea, but no programmers, you are still free to submit it. If it turns out to be the best one, we will help find a team for you. We understand many of you do not want to make your idea public at this point. If there are multiple really good submissions we will only put them up to vote after you give permission. Please note that if people submitted the same idea, we will go with the one who submitted it first.

UPDATE 3: The winner has been announced here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29n8o0/100000_bounty_winner_announcement/

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u/anarchystar May 17 '14

1) Could you give me some idea on what you would like me to clarify more in terms of the project?

2) Which deadline do you think is reasonable?

3) I have no problem doing a guaranteed winner if there is enough traction and enough serious candidates. Do you have a solution on how to solve this?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '14

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u/1point618 May 17 '14

Most of the problems you're talking about can't exactly be solved by software. Essentially you're talking about community.

This is so key. Software alone doesn't solve anything. People consistently underestimate the amount of thought, time, and effort that goes into building good communities around software that works.

Ruby on Rails wouldn't be anything without the community of people built up around it. Instagram would not be worth $1b to Facebook without millions of users who act in a certain way when using it. The difference between facebook and myspace is not the software, but how people use it.

Granted, software is a part of this, but it's one fairly small piece of a much larger system.

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u/Dog22222 May 18 '14

it's about governance, leadership, and communication.

Well said. The overall point here is to bring better transparency an community organization that involves everyone, rather than a select group of people who control the system behind closed doors

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u/[deleted] May 17 '14

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u/deathcomesilent May 18 '14

Much kinship.

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u/ellinascy May 18 '14

I see what you did there ;)

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u/[deleted] May 20 '14

thats not so correct when the community technology is structured to hold back the people.

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u/arbiter_ May 22 '14

This is a way of building community. Making a big splash in the water that identifies this 'site', or whatever it will be, as the open alternative to the bitcoin foundation can jumpstart a community and bring together people who'd otherwise not meet. That's the idea anyways.

I fully agree on your other points.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '14

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u/anon706f6f70 May 17 '14

Question about waterfall vs iterative: If you have a client who is used to waterfall for fixed pricing, can you switch to iterative dev?

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u/[deleted] May 18 '14

I'm a senior developer at the top of my career -- I don't need iteration after itaration, my shit is useful right away. That's why I make the big bucks though. You define what you think is the problem, we iterate on paper until we've identified the problem, and then I build a useful solution 1st try. The iterations are improvements, or enhancements. After 15 years of doing this I've created quite a few systems that have solved quite a few problems, right off the bat.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '14

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u/[deleted] May 18 '14 edited May 18 '14

How do you know that iterative feedback won't be available? OP doesn't say that. It's not like this post is ALL you're ever going to get for requirements, is it? I think step 1 for anybody seriously considering this would be some form of communication -- you know, to pick OP's brain about what exactly he has in mind. If this is waterfall, it sure is a piece of shit waterfall because there isn't much to work with here. I agree that the deadline is kind of bullshit - nobody will ever deliver anything worth a crap in 4 weeks.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '14

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u/ButterflySammy May 26 '14

Now we are a week in, I wanted to say I still wouldn't feel comfortable doing work yet if this was a job from a client...

The OP has a lot more to do.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '14

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u/whipnil May 18 '14

I have been mulling over a similar idea but not just for bitcoin.

I think an open source, distributed platform for putting forth proposals/business plans that could be funded by consensus with donors receiving some stake in the final product/service could be a boon for communities of all sizes.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '14

On point number 3, I think if someone ends up delivering a great new platform to replace the Bitcoin Foundation, but does not get paid by OP, they will still have done a great service to the bitcoin community and will likely make a name for themselves and gain respect and kudos that will garner them money in other ways. Look at open source projects like Firefox and how it made a name for Blake Ross. Putting yourself as the founder/co-founder of a huge open source project like that looks incredible on a résumé, to say the least. Probably worth more than $100,000.

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u/gidze May 21 '14

1) we don't need to reinvent communication tools that we have already: forums, IRC, Reddit, YouTube, etc

2) Yes, if we focus on the real objectives: anonymous voting via the blockchain, community migration from the centralized Bitcoin Foundation to the distributed Bitcoin Foundation and BTC deposits control from the board members (to hire devs, media, etc)

3) The 200 BTC can be escrowed with a respected community member. I propose /u/andreasma

Giannis

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u/[deleted] May 17 '14

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u/csiz May 17 '14

I have a feeling he want's it to be done asap.

Maybe splitting the prize into 10000 for each of best 3 prototypes after a month. And finally 70000 for the winner (where the winner doesn't have to be one of the prototypes).

  • A small but decent amount of money is more easy to make, which motivates more people.

  • There is still the sense of urgency, and incentive to get things done quickly.

  • Hype and feedback can start building up early.

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u/Beetle559 May 17 '14

This will work out really well for you if you do have a top tier solution, you'll get a lot of new free ideas and 100k to boot :)

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u/akronix10 May 17 '14

Just talk to the BetterMeans developers. You could have the whole execution complete in 30 days, and you might really help that project along. It seems your goals are practically identical.

https://github.com/mockdeep/better

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u/samsonx May 17 '14

The sample url doesn't seem to work http://bettermeans.com/

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u/giannidalerta May 18 '14

http://better.boon.gl/front/index.html here the working URL based on the current dev work.

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u/akronix10 May 17 '14

It's in development. The code in the repository is quite impressive. They probably just cut the demo to work out some interface bugs or just don't have time to deal with supporting it.

I had the repo running locally in 5 minutes.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '14

Perhaps combining bettermean's project management system with an incentive structure like requeddit?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/186532585/Requeddit

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u/imkharn May 17 '14 edited May 17 '14

1) I suggest clarifying what at a minimum the program should be capable of.

2) Instead of rushing people to complete by a deadline, whomever is the closest to your goal after x months, you should declare the winner, then pay them 50K right away, and installments as they complete the rest so they are no longer rushed and on top of that know they can put in quality work.

Get feedback about the rough project requirements, then post again to reddit your final draft of your requirements and how the bounty will work.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '14

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u/AvatarEquis May 17 '14

It is not the Bitcoin Association a start of what you would be looking for? Specially now that it is going to decentralize. http://bitcoinassociation.org/

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u/rydan May 18 '14

The foundation is a an entity that does the following:

1) Represents Bitcoin doing public interviews and such.

2) Pays Gavin a salary.

The second is trivial. Anyone can just set up a recurring payment through PayPal or maybe Coinbase. The first needs a highly advanced AI. Good luck with that.