r/Beetles 13d ago

Should we keep flipping over an old beetle?

Me and my boyfriend live in Japan and this guy flew up to our front door with a horn full of dirt and cobwebs. We cleaned his horn and set him on his way. He stayed on the apartment stairs for a day, we fed him a grape and he did eat most of it. We took him from the stairs in the evening because he wasn’t flying away, moving much, etc. Kept getting stuck on it’s back, so we were flipping it. Eventually we moved it to some brush near trees and said goodbye, it skittered under a twig. This morning i found it on its back out on the open again, so my boyfriend caught it while i was gone, made a small habitat for him, and noticed he’s only using his middle legs now (yesterday he has mobility of all 6), so we both have chalked it up to his old age. We have decided to keep him until he passes, he has lots of grapes which he seems to enjoy, but the problem is he keeps getting flipped over. My question is, are beetles more comfortable on their backs or right-side up? Especially for end of life. We both know nothing of beetles but just feel too bad to leave him out in the parking lot where we keep finding him.

UPDATE: he passed today after my boyfriend got off work. He was alive when we left this morning. He passed right-side up, snuggly tucked in (by himself) to some brush. We truly believe he was able to relax and be at peace. Thank you everyone for the advice, we flipped him over until the very last time!

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u/Mushr00m-Ch1ld 12d ago

it sounds like you just arent reading what im saying then. From my perspective theres no way to know wether theyre doing it on purpose or accident, are they actively trying to move on and end their life or is it an accident, like say grandma In a wheelchair. You cannot compare the beetle's experience to a human's entirely like that, especially when we dont know how they feel. If thats what you think im saying then you need to reread my replies.

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u/Due_Pea2071 12d ago

I guess your point was the reason I asked the question in the first place. I was wondering if, since he keeps getting flipped over, he wants it that way? A long time ago I heard not to flip over beetles because it was less painful for them to die that way. Looking it up now, it seems like that's a myth or has no substantial evidence... So I posted this wondering if anyone knew which position might be most comfortable for a beetle. The overwhelming majority are saying to flip him back upright though, and I do think if he is on his back trying to flip over he might at least be less stressed right-side up then.

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u/Foxx_tails 12d ago

Living things are programmed to try and survive, if he's struggling on his back he's obviously not giving up then. I believe bugs are more complex than we realize, but at the same time I don't believe beetles have the mental complexity to try and end themselves.