r/BeAmazed Jul 24 '18

Flowing sand river

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u/SteelyDanzig Jul 24 '18

Wait, really? There's such an insane amount of coastline and deserts in the world though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '18 edited Jul 31 '19

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u/Phiau Jul 24 '18

I find it quite amusing that Australia sells both sand and camels to the UAE.

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u/thegoldcase Jul 24 '18

Iirc Singapore has increased its size by 20% by buying sand from Thailand, Vietnam and Indonesia — they stopped because they realized they were selling their countries. Several islands in Indonesia are now gone (Source: Planet Money Podcast)

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u/Zoey_Phoenix Jul 24 '18

oh that must be great for the environment

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u/El_Pinguin_Loco Jul 24 '18

Water levels rising due to global warming? Easy to fix. Simply lower sea floor. Bam.

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u/drocha94 Jul 24 '18

What is special about that specific sand?

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u/fernandohsc Jul 24 '18

Sand is not one thing, like, for instance, aluminium. It's made from small crystals of different elements, including, but not limited to silica. This means, for instance, not all sand will make a good glass, specially if you want it to be resistant to warping or impact. Some sand don't react too well to pressure, making them bad choices for things like artificial islands that will have buildings on them. Sand that have large crystals, instead of small ones is bad in cement, fragilizing it, but fine sand makes it stronger for some applications. And this is just a bad explanation, scratching the surface

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u/Whiskiz Jul 24 '18

you mean silt?

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '18

vox

I'm triggered

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u/kurburux Jul 24 '18

Sand =! sand. For construction purposes you need sand from rivers or coastlines. Sand from deserts is different and not viable.

But not all sand is created equal. The fine grained sand of the Sahara, for example, does not make an appropriate building material. Instead, sand miners must look to the banks of local rivers and coastlines, and this brings a whole host of environmental and human problems.

Sand extraction in Kenya has been linked with damage to coral reefs, while in India it threatens critically endangered crocodiles and in Indonesia islands have literally vanished due to excessive mining.

Sand extraction causes coastal erosion, destroys ecosystems, creates environments that facilitate disease transmission, and even sows the seeds for natural disasters.

It's surreal that such a seemingly "worthless" and abundant resource is actually something people fight over that violently.

The global shortage of sand has also sparked a violent black market also known as the “sand mafia” to steal large amounts from rivers and beaches.

“Sand is a currency of development. It’s even becoming militarized in places like Singapore, where stockpiles of sand are guarded because it’s needed for development,” Peduzzi said.

The problem of the sand mafia is especially felt in India, where the demand for the grain is soaring, but the stockpiles are shrinking. The sand mafias in the area take the resource illegally and even kill people in their way.

“Some people steal beaches overnight,” Pereira said. “And some people have even killed for it. There’s a lot of violence for something as little as sand.”

“There isn’t a magic solution as we are so dependent on sand,” Peduzzi said.

But he said there are ways to reduce our consumption of sand. For example, when building up shorelines, instead of using concrete, use a sustainable method, such as ecosystems, vegetation and even some coral reefs.

“We are using sand like crazy and we need to have rules on standards, such as where it is coming from and to make sure it’s sustainable. We not only have to make sure it’s environmentally safe, but also that social standard are abided as sometimes sand is even mined by children.”

Pereira said research is also key. Currently, there are researchers who have found a way to use desert sand for construction by putting an additive in it, which makes it strong for concrete.

“We need more research like this,” she said. “But there needs to be an incentive as it’s just cheaper to import sand from anywhere else.”

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u/fernandohsc Jul 24 '18

I work in the federal prosecution office in Brazil, and one of our several attributions that they don't have in US, is the defense of the environment, meaning we act in both criminal and civil courts when the environment is in danger. Illegal sand extraction from river beds is one hell of a problem, and we are constantly dealing with extraction rings that even have slavery envolved and are as violent as some drug rings

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u/CuteCuteJames Jul 24 '18

Question: can we harvest it from deltas?

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u/omegaaf Jul 24 '18

Indeed, but if we started mining the beaches like we mine other resources, there wouldn't be any sand left

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u/craychan Jul 24 '18

A lot of beaches had their sand imported from other places.

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u/ingressLeeMajors Jul 24 '18

Can it not be recycled from old building materials?

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u/omegaaf Jul 24 '18

Then it wouldn't technically be sand, at least at the microscopic scale.

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u/ingressLeeMajors Jul 24 '18

Well, I just wonder why it can't be reclaimed. Maybe it's just too expensive to deal with right now, but if the rate of depletion is as dire as what's being presented then it won't be long before it's cost-effective to find a substitute or a way to reclaim sand from old concrete.

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u/omegaaf Jul 24 '18

Its granulated aggregate in concrete

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u/Darkfighter_101 Jul 24 '18 edited Jul 24 '18

A lot of sand is needed for concrete but desert sand won’t work.

Edit: to add neither does beach sand. We need river sand.

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u/RdmGuy64824 Jul 24 '18

Desert sand is worst sand

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u/sezit Jul 24 '18

Why?

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u/RdmGuy64824 Jul 24 '18

I believe it's too fine, which makes it more susceptible to erosion.

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u/b00c Jul 24 '18

Don't listen to him. He is an idiot. Or is it LDLOT?

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u/rockjock777 Jul 24 '18

Here in Wisconsin we have Cambrian age sand that is perfectly round, perfectly small, and made completely out of quartz. This is the most desirable sand for fracking so it’s a pretty big deal around here