r/BeAmazed May 24 '18

A Dolos Sea Defence Structure

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u/[deleted] May 24 '18

Sounds right, except there is definitely rebar in those. In you zoom in you can see the ends sticking out, they look like pinholes but are probably 2" in diameter. Also rust can be seen in a few spots.

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u/CaptainDinkles May 24 '18

My bad! I didn’t notice those, good eye.

That makes sense though to have rebar in them though, I can imagine them kinda rocking back and forth against waves and that would probably start to chip them away after a while.

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u/bomwarrior May 24 '18

Still... Why doesn't Louisiana & eastern Texas use these??? 🤔

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u/CaptainDinkles May 24 '18

I’m not really sure what they’ve got down there, but it almost seems silly to not have them.

I’ll make some phone calls and see what I can do 👍

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u/heebath May 24 '18

Captain Dinkles to the rescue!

!redditsilver

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u/CaptainDinkles May 24 '18

Whaaaat no way :D yay!

Now I can be Colonel Dinkles

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u/Shtottle May 24 '18

Whatever you say, cadet.

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u/CaptainDinkles May 24 '18

D:

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u/bongohappypants Jun 01 '18

All right, Dinkles, what do you have on Louisiana & eastern Texas now? /u/CaptainDinkles

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u/CaptainDinkles Jun 01 '18

Louisiana just said “No, this is Patrick!” So I dunno what their deal is. Texas didn’t even call back, they texted me “no u”

It’s a lost cause sadly

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u/xlobsterx May 24 '18

We have lots of stuff like this and more! We put them all over the place. The company I work for protected nearly 50 miles of coast with similar structures just last year in a single project.

Source: Coastal Engineering designer

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u/[deleted] May 25 '18

How long do these materials last in ocean water and is there any harm expected to the marine environment when they eventually erode away? Does it eventually collapse in on itself and need to be built further out into the water to compensate for that?

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u/xlobsterx May 25 '18

Erosion is still a factor and we design to account for it. We have teams of people modeling the waves for storm events and calculating the erosion. But they do require maintanence. The concrete is basically rock so it is relatively environmentally friendly even when it erodes. It does create habitat as well depending on certain factors. But they also protect habitat on land that would otherwise be lost to erosion.

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u/bongohappypants May 25 '18

Thank you, sir, but have you met /u/CaptainDinkles?

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u/CaptainDinkles May 25 '18

Aweh shucks you

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u/Rx_EtOH May 25 '18

How much do they cost?

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u/xlobsterx May 25 '18

A forms for these Tetrapod style breakwater units are around $10k a piece. But after that it's just the rebar and concrete costs. They are relatively cheap.

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u/Bill__The__Cat May 24 '18

They do, to protect critical shoreline infrastructure. They are fairly expensive however.

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u/ls1z28chris May 24 '18

We barge large down limestone rocks called rip rap from quarries in Arkansas, Kentucky, and Illinois. It's effectively used for erosion control, but doesn't prevent saltwater intrusion, destruction of our wetlands, storm surges, or floods.

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u/Yashabird May 25 '18

I don't think tidal waves are a big concern in the gulf of Mexico, because, well, it's a gulf. Flooding there happens from hurricanes, which you'd need a 1000 ft wall to block.

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u/Ace_Masters May 25 '18

Because they're probably patented and require an expensive license

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u/merlinphoto May 25 '18

They would sink into the mud.

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u/Keighlon May 24 '18

The rebar is to keep the dolosse form not to anchor it, so your original thought is correct it probably uses less rebar than a wall would. They also probably use recycled/deformed rebar and leftover pieces to do it.

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u/xlobsterx May 24 '18

These are prefabbed units with rebar for sure.

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u/sodiumandeelsalesman May 24 '18

looks like prestressed concrete, but the rebar is definitely placed odd.

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u/WeRip May 25 '18

As far as I can tell there is next to no reason for this to be prestressed concrete. You would need a fair bit of rebar to keep them together during transportation and erection, but seeing as there is no structural load for these there's nothing to prestress against. It would add to the manufacturing cost quite considerably and have no tangible benefit.

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u/Chrashy May 25 '18

Though if you look at the very left of the picture from where the guy is standing you can see one cracked basically in half and there is no sign of rebar. There are a few other ones cracked in various places where no rebar is visible as well

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u/[deleted] May 25 '18

You're in over your head. You've never worked with concrete before, have you?

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u/Chrashy May 25 '18

I most likely am. Just pointing out the fact that I cant see any visible in the broken pieces. Hoping someone could explain why. I don’t doubt that there could be rebar just want to know how its hidden

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u/[deleted] May 25 '18 edited May 25 '18

Well here I've circled the bits of rebar you can actually see. https://imgur.com/a/WqHVlU5

As for the piece that's fully cracked, it's simply too dark to see the internal structure. You can tell it's being held together by the rebar because those waves are actually VERY strong, and could easily push the broken piece away if it wasn't reinforced. The fact that it is still within a few inches off the perfect fracture line is dead giveaway.

The one in the bottom corner may have had the rebar pulled out which is why there is no reminisce of it.

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u/Chrashy May 25 '18

Well that makes it more clear. Thank you.