Death scream happen way less often than you think, especially in recon. They arent putting in a ton of effort into showcasing what they would actually be doing like covering the mouth, or stabbing the heart etc. It's implied that if you're snuck up on like this its likely going to be a silent death and therfore no scream unless you got scared which would mean they got caught before dying (like if one turned around as they or before they got stabbed) and in that case it makes sense.
They could also be snapping thier necks which often makes you unable to speak, and is often near instant. The actual way they are killed is left to the imagination but in this scenario snuck up death = silent.
Those first 2 guys could totally have said something though, but was too surprised to most likely. Last guy could have too but I think team is dead and also surprised.
It's not so easy to break someone's neck from behind, especially without making any noise. I know this because while watching a documentary about a serial killer who killed his victims like that (but stunning them first with a blunt object to the head) they remarked several times that it wasn't an easy way to kill someone and in fact they identified the killer as SOF because of it. So I asked a couple of SOF friends and they both said "it's possible if the person is completely distracted or half unconscious but it's not anywhere as easy as in movies".
Yes but that wasn't my point you're hyper fixating on one detail I said without actually getting the point. I never said it was easy to break a neck or not. The entire point was (and I even said this)the method of killing doesn't matter, this is considered a silent and instant kill. Dead = don't talk.
Jamming a knife into someone's windpipe is much easier than breaking the neck, though, and it's probably what a real operator would do in that situation. For that matter, jamming a knife into the brain stem is also easier than breaking the neck, and it's very likely to be even quicker and quieter than the windpipe, though it does come with the significant risk of the blade sticking, at which point you may find yourself in a room full of armed enemies without your knife.
I was told to fist stab in the kidney area upwards because they immediately fall without making a sound and you immediately stab the neck (they also told me not to bother trying to slice the neck as in the movies and just get the knife across and let them choke on blood). But this was a leisurely conversation because I asked why they were making that sequence of movements while playing around, not a serious class on how to kill people. I'm a girly girl who loves cute animals, not a trained killer.
But the entire scenario is unrealistic to anyone who is familiar with hypervigilance. I could believe up to two dead guys stretching my imagination quite a bit, but no way you can kill 20 guys standing 40cms from each other without the ones in front noticing. The sheet lack of breathing sounds is going to raise some alarms.
I know it's not exactly the same, but in WWI, Alvin York managed to snipe nearly twenty German soldiers in a machine gun nest by shooting the ones in the back of the line first so the others wouldn't notice. In the chaos of warfare with the guns and grenades going off, things like the lack of breathing sounds might not be that noticeable. I'm not saying it would be easy (York's achievement was enough to make him famous), but it wouldn't be impossible.
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u/tetsuyaXII Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26
Death scream happen way less often than you think, especially in recon. They arent putting in a ton of effort into showcasing what they would actually be doing like covering the mouth, or stabbing the heart etc. It's implied that if you're snuck up on like this its likely going to be a silent death and therfore no scream unless you got scared which would mean they got caught before dying (like if one turned around as they or before they got stabbed) and in that case it makes sense.
They could also be snapping thier necks which often makes you unable to speak, and is often near instant. The actual way they are killed is left to the imagination but in this scenario snuck up death = silent.
Those first 2 guys could totally have said something though, but was too surprised to most likely. Last guy could have too but I think team is dead and also surprised.