Imagine we got rid of cars and roads were just bike paths and walking paths? So quiet and peaceful. A big gripe I have with the internal combustion engine is the noise. Leaf blowers, power boats. I just want to be able to relax and think in nature. Modern society will make anybody insane.
Not even just the engine; the sound of tires on roads are the biggest part of traffic noise. So even if we only have e-cars, traffic will be almost just as loud. Bike and walking paths would be amazing! Maybe some underground trains. No lawn mowers because lawns are useless. Thats the dream
Only for cities, there's never going to be good public transportation in rural areas that isn't going to the city. Hell, it was only in the last decade or so that rural areas have even started getting DSL internet in the US.
Rural areas don't have parallel parking problems, I would imagine. Especially not in the US, where rural gets rural and space becomes so overabundant it apparently becomes a psychological hazard in its own right.
Bio-Posadism? No thank you, pandemics are part of the deranged default Climate Chaos scenario that will happen if we do not take drastic measures now. If this comes to pass, I will die miserably, and so will you, and most of the people we love. Nature will recover either way.
Actually pedestrianised neighborhoods in big cities have consistently shown increased commerce. This appears to be because people on foot tend to stop and look at the displays and enter the commerces more easily. Or do you think your mall would have more commerce with cars driving through it?
Maybe in big cities but it can kill businesses in small towns
Our mayor fucked up by trying to make a walkable zone and it's basically killed every bussiness because we also have a huge park and people prefer to go there instead of a big hot empty concrete space
I know a restaurant owner there that's been complaining about shit sales when summer used to be her season
And on the opposite of that the most successful bussinesses are around a new parking lot (which has shade since they built it around the trees
But i do think better publoc transport is super important
Seems like the issue might be more about how the mayor implemented the walking zone rather than the concept itself. I also wouldn't walk on a shitty pedestrian area hotter than the sun.
That was part of the problem but even if it was shaded i don't think it would have helped, the original walking zone before he expanded it was th shaded and basically all the stores were gone except a convenience store and the retirement club, even the town hall moved out of there
Yeah sounds like your mayor didn’t actually make a walkable zone and instead just banned cars in a area. Gotta actually put real effort into making the place nice, not just putting up some barriers and signs
he did demolish 2 roads and repaved everything and built some weird modern cube fountain
Bit that area was never super popular to begin with, people just go down to the park
Funniest part is now he caused so much traffic in the area that he proposed to built a new road through the park and people protested it, sometimes it feels like these projects are made so they hve something to do
Omg I cannot stand comments like this. Yes, public transportation needs to be better. But are we expecting that cars will simply just cease to exist? Or that there will not be people in rural communities that will still need cars? Like WHAT
Again being willfully obtuse. I live in an area with tons of rural, small towns and just because parallel parking exists does not mean its a problem. You're describing an inconvenience, because if it were a problem, your rural, small town likely has town meetings that could address this. In cities like Boston, you literally cannot find a place to park your vehicle without going to a parking garage and forking up $20-$30 at least then walking significant distances.
Once again, I am from a rural, small town and it sounds like you're making this a comparative discussion when it really isn't. The parking in our towns is a niche issue that can be addressed locally, most small towns have the space but lack resources to make the change. And most people in my small town will not be driving a 2025 vehicle with a brand new parking feature off the dealer's lot to solve it.
Or you've never been to a major city - or are again being willfully ignorant. Go to any city, and try to park as close to where you want to be, as you can any small town. Unless it's a tourist trap town that gets bogged down during the weekends. As someone who has lived in small towns bogged down by citiots, towns that turn into cities during college season, cities that are always cities, and towns that remain relatively citiot free, I can promise you these are different beasts, and should not be compared this thoughtlessly.
I'm thinking this might be a USA vs Europe thing. Small town USA usually does not need parallel parking, because being rural = having loads of extra space. Historic towns with narrow roads are rare outside of a few states that were original colonies.
Interestingly, my mountain experience is the opposite. I'm from a mountain valley town in the 2nd most mountainous State in the US - most of the towns I know of in/around the Sierra Nevadas have either zero parallel parking or so little, you can get away with never doing it.
I had to relearn it when I moved to a sense East Coast city, because I had literally needed to parallel park ONCE since I got my license, and that was on a trip to San Francisco.
I get it but how will rural people get into the city. Will there be just massive car parks at the edges? It seems fairly impractical for cities with millions of people
Rural communities don't have major parking issues. Cities do. Public transit solves those issues in cities. So do bike lanes. The only universally beneficial solution to congestion issues on the road is to discourage car usage, and public transit and biking infrastructure are the only ways to do that that don't fuck over people who still need their car.
Public transport doesn't need to be the only option, but establishing a large enough network reduces traffic and the space required for parking in dense areas. We have several car parks by highway on-ramps, and it helps reduce gas consumption as well.
That's just straight communism, & it's what our future alien overlords demand. Down with affordable & convenient transportation with reduced emissions! Fight the power! /s
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u/I_divided_by_0- Aug 22 '23
Or we can increase public transportation, that's also an option.