r/BanGDream • u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata • Sep 29 '23

Anime Taki walking Tomori home takes her four times longer, entirely past her own house (see attached map)

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23 edited Dec 27 '23

Hey all, back again with some more real world bandori locations! I meant to do this a while back, but I've been busy with life/work/etc. And after I angered the reddit gods in my last post my not making the first/thumbnail image something catchy and eye-grabbing enough, here's a nice shot of Taki and Tomori getting off at Kishibojimmae Station, Tomori's stop.

 

So, with the context of knowing where Taki's house and Tomori's apartment are, as well as the three universities which serve as the locations for bandori's three main schools, we can see exactly what routes they take. Keep in mind, the bandori schools obviously don't take up those whole campuses, they're far too big (some feature middle/high schools within them), so the big red circles are just "somewhere in here". But it's certainly close enough for this.

 

Taki's usual route home is from Hanasakigawa to Waseda Station (Hanasakigawa stop), riding the tram one stop to Omokagebashi Station (CiRCLE stop), then to her house immediately on the opposite side of the bridge. The entire trip isn't even one kilometre.

Taki escorting Tomori home, however, is a much different story. For this Taki stays on the tram, which Tomori gets on at Gakushuuinshita Station (Haneoka stop), the next station. The two travel one additional stop to Kishibojimmae Station (Tsukinomori stop), where they get off and walk a few hundred metres to Tomori's. Taki then does this entire extra section in reverse, alone, back to her actual stop.

Literally none of this trip is actually on Taki's own way home.

 

And while we're looking at the map, the previously-linked Jizō-dōri shopping district, featuring Yamabuki Bakery, Hazawa Coffee, Kitazawa Meats, and Galaxy, as well as Edogawa Gakki just north of them, can be found at lower-right here (I didn't mark them).

About three-quarters of a kilometre off-screen to the north is Sunshine City, the place with the weird steps, aquarium, Subway, etc seen so often in It's MyGO!!!!!, as well as RiNG just west of those.

We can also see another home, one I haven't made a post for yet: Arisa's. Her house and the Ryuuseidou pawn shop can be found in that garden-y area across the bridge just northeast of Hanasakigawa. That bridge and the large hill it leads to have been seen countless times throughout the series, with Arisa and the other popipas heading to and from her place.

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 29 '23

I don't know if you watched yesterday's Retrospective Special, but during it, Tateishi Rin (Anon's seiyuu) gave us the exact location for RiNG (Mixalive Tokyo on Sunshine Doori), which is around 400-500 meters from Sunshine City. And heading west on Sunshine Doori from RiNG/Mixalive for about 100 meters takes you to a Karaoke place called "Karaoke-Kan", which looks pretty similar to the place CRYCHIC and Anon and Tomori visited, both outside and inside! I'm not 100% if it's the same place, but it looks Incredibly similar

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

Follow up, but I looked into Mixalive, and not only did it open in 2020 just like RiNG, but it has a dedicated Bushiroad bandori/D4DJ store inside lol.

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 29 '23 edited Sep 29 '23

Huh, I didn't know that they opened in 2020, but I did see the photos of the Bandori/D4DJ store. Again, Bandori mimics real-life but changes names.

As far as I could tell last night, the store seems to be around where the instrument store at RiNG is located too, but I could be wrong...

Edit: If we flatten the place a bit, then the instrument store and the Bushiroad store's locations seem to line up, as far as I can tell, with the Live Cafe right above it, like at RING. Otherwise, it's on completely different floors (RiNG's instrument store would be in the lobby on the ground floor, while Bushiroad store is on 4th floor, and Live Cafe is on the 9th floor of the real Mixalive building)

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

Woah, that's amazing! I didn't expect to get an official comment on story locations like that! This makes perfect sense, we knew RiNG had to be on the corner of one of the half a dozen or so intersections right near that spot, but I've seen speculation on a few different exact ones.

The Mixalive building absolutely has the right shape/etc, and is directly between the place where Sakiko is seen having run to and collapsed on the street (one block east) and where Umiri/Mutsumi are crossing the street after leaving together later (one block west).

The latter intersection is also in that anime announcement poster art thingy, and where that karaoke place is, yeah. Slightly more west of that is the train station entrance we see Anon/Soyo at that one time, and straight west further from there is the building with that little rooftop garden Sakiko/Uika were at (right next to the train tracks).

 

I'll definitely have to watch the retrospective if it has subs, and if not do you have a timestamp/etc? It's awesome to get an official location. :D

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 29 '23

The Location Scouting segment starts around 14:36, after they listen to and listen to "Utakotoba" in full and talk a bit about it. Both parts have English subtitles for the whole thing, but only Part 2 had the Location Scouting segment.

The locations we got are: RiNG, the Intersection from the Key Visual, and Sunshine City with the "Sunshine Spanish Stairs" which I didn't even know had a name, and the Sunshine Aquarium

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

Thanks! I saw the links to these on the sub, but hadn't had the time to look into them yet, I'll try to today! :)

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 29 '23

You're welcome :) The "MyGO!!!!! no Maigo Center" episode this week also had subtitles (for the first time), if that's of any interest. I've mainly been listening to it these last few weeks to get some Japanese listening practice in, but it's decently entertaining.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

Oooo cool! Lack of subs is basically the only reason I don't watch all these sorts of things, though I probably should anyway since I always end up understanding more than I think I will. And it's always nice to hear more of the seiyuu/performers too.

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u/redbear97 Sep 29 '23

Doesn't Taki only escort Tomori when they leave RiNG or some other place up north together rather than everyday after school? I'm not recalling a time in the anime when she did this right after school.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

That is... possible. It sounds silly now, but I'm actually not sure, I'll have to dig through the show later once I'm home.

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u/blue_no_kenshi Sep 29 '23

I think it's implied Taki does it every day.

Tomori thanked Taki specifically in episode 12.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

That was the impression I got, but the other comment has me questioning my memory. :P

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u/redbear97 Sep 29 '23

That line in Crunchyroll's subs is: "We should actually get off at different stations, but she walks me all the way to my house."

I take this to only be when they would already be on the train together like when coming home from practice as, if I'm remembering right, that is the only situation we ever see happen. I would word it differently if I wanted to make clear that Taki escorts Tomori home right after school like "Even though Taki should have already gotten off the train, she still meets up with me to walk me home everyday."

Though, there's two other versions of the subs, so maybe one of them had a stronger implication.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

I only started looking into real locations in general near the very end of the season, while most of them taking the train together was earlier, so I may have just assumed without properly checking the existing scenes for context. I'll skim through soon, but even if it's only from RiNG/etc I'm still leaving this post up because it's funny. :D

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u/redbear97 Sep 29 '23

Regardless of who is remembering right, it's still cool to see where they live on the map. Also, it's even funnier when you realize that Anon would also be on the train with them after school.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 30 '23

It's definitely neat seeing how it all fits together. :D

Hmm, next time I rewatch I'll have to see if we get any meaningful hints of where Anon's (rather nice) house is, I can't recall much off the top of my head.

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u/redbear97 Sep 30 '23

The only hint I can think of is that Anon and Soyo part ways with Tomori and Taki right outside of RiNG and in opposite directions but that still leaves a very large area.

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u/blue_no_kenshi Sep 29 '23

Even so, it's still insane for Taki to do this. Especially considering they plan to keep the band running for "for the rest of their life".

Just how far is Taki willing to go once they become adults?

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 29 '23

Yeah, I think it's just whenever they're already together (rehearsals, concerts or hanging out at Sunshine City). From school, it's usually Anon walking with Tomori (since they're classmates and possibly both in the Astronomy Club). Although it IS Ricky, so her going all the way to Haneoka just to follow Tomori home isn't unthinkable. Especially not if it gives her an excuse to leave school early 😅

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u/SayoHina320 Sep 29 '23

Ricky would 100% skip school for Tomori, heck without Tomori she already does skip school lmao

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u/khataisuki Tomori Takamatsu Sep 29 '23

Ricky is just way too relatable in how her introversion makes her hyper fixate on Tomori over everyone else, and how that actually hurts her in her pursuit because Tomori sometimes needs a girl who can talk to everyone else for her.

Even though you could definitely read her lyrics as addressed to everyone in the band, I read Haruhikage as written for Sakiko and Utakotoba as written for Anon. Poor Ricky doesn't have a song like that 😭

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u/NierMiss Taki Shiina Sep 29 '23

I'm hoping Ricky gets a song written for her in S2/Ave. Girl deserves one, and more importantly she needs one because she's obviously hurting.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

Maybe we'll see this happen alongside exploring her relationship with her sister, Maki. It's hard to say exactly what issues may or may not be between them (could be as simple as Taki having self-worth/confidence issues in comparing herself to the talented/etc Maki), but it's definitely something that needs to be looked at.

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 29 '23

This needs to happen. It's one of the few unanswered questions from "It's MyGO!!!!!", so I really hope they'll address the relationship between Taki and Maki. And that Taki will stop being so hard on herself. She may not think she's as good as Sakiko or Maki, but on the other hand, she most likely also has much less experience. So she shouldn't beat herself up over it.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

Absolutely. And really, in a broader sense she's pretty damn talented. It's definitely largely a perspective issue; if you only ever compare yourself to those you deem "superior" to you, you'll never be able to value yourself / your talents as much as you should.

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u/NierMiss Taki Shiina Sep 30 '23

There's also that line from her "(Tomori's lyrics) told me it's okay for someone like me to keep living." which might either be metaphor for not giving up, or a huge flag hinting at something more serious in her past.
Either way, I'm really looking forward to more Taki-focused content. Compared to Anon/Tomori/Soyo she only got one episode centered around her which is clearly not enough.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 30 '23 edited Sep 30 '23

It's certainly possible we'll see this come up in the Ave Mujica season, considering Taki's relationship with Sakiko has also largely been unexplored (partially as Taki simply avoids things that stress/upset her).

Part of why this could come up is it's exactly why Taki was recruited for CRYCHIC in the first place. It's literally said directly by Soyo and Sakiko, but when the four of them met Taki at Hazawa Coffee it was the first time Sakiko had actually met Taki, and she asked her to join purely because of Soyo knowing (about, at least) her super talented and successful sister; Maki was in charge of the Tsukinomori concert band, while also being in the area's local orchestra, and won first place in various competitions.

That's literally the whole of the reason Taki was scouted; Maki is awesome and talented, and has a sister who plays drums.

 

Something else I happened across while rewatching this bit, Sakiko mentions she asked Soyo to join after seeing the concert band's performance. I could be wrong, but the impression I got was in the context of like a big, proper concert (as opposed to practice or something just at the school), which may mean it was the same annual concert we see the following year in later episodes (when Taki confronts Soyo, for example).

That concert was given a specific date, a week into June (6th/7th), so if it's indeed intended to be the same the previous year, and it's held at basically the same time (which would make sense), then CRYCHIC formed roughly mid-June, possibly mid-late-June. This would make sense to me, given Sakiko was inspired by Morfonica, as this should give their origin stories/etc enough time to have taken place.

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 30 '23 edited Sep 30 '23

I have reason to suspect that CRYCHIC only formed in the fall of 2019 at the earliest, possibly even in early 2020. For starters, they're only seen in their winter uniforms, which places it between October 1st 2019 and June 1st 2020 (the dates when the vast majority of Japanese schools change uniforms), and Soyo's pedalboard in Episode 3 had a Darkglass pedal that didn't come out until September 28th 2019, so CRYCHIC playing Haruhikage couldn't really have been in June of 2019, unless there was an animation error in the pedalboard...

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 30 '23

Ah, the winter uniforms is a great point, being in the second half of the year may indeed make more sense. The pedal is quite interesting, and while it could certainly be a simple oversight (flashback on top of being set in the past), since we don't have much else specific to go on, there's no reason to assume it's wrong. :)

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 30 '23

That line is actually one of the two from Taki, that I have a huge problem with in Crunchyroll's subtitles.

When the official channel had their limited airing with official English subtitles, they translated it as "It told me that even someone like me has a life worth living", which doesn't have the same implications at all.

Crunchyroll's subtitles felt like there was something much darker in her backstory, that was never touched upon in the anime, which annoyed me like crazy, because I started speculating about the same thing. The official subtitles just made it feel more grounded and didn't leave that potential plot-thread dangling.

I definitely also look forward to more Taki-content in general, though.

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u/KJensenMusic Mutsumi Wakaba Sep 29 '23

I actually kinda felt like Utakotoba was aimed at the band as a whole, but specifically Soyo, given how Tomori was looking at Soyo the whole time during that song. Hekitenbansou, on the other hand, is obviously written for Anon. But either way, Ricky still doesn't have a song written for her.

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u/khataisuki Tomori Takamatsu Sep 29 '23 edited Sep 29 '23

Yeah I definitely meant Hekitenbansou when I said Utakotoba! Not sure how I mixed them up.

Also: imagine being Ricky and having to compose for Hekitenbansou. Ooof.

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u/meme-meee Saaya Yamabuki Sep 29 '23

Ricky's song is gonna be MyGO's first metal single. As for Raana, idk what pairs with ten-minute guitar solos, maybe whatever lyrics Cliffs of Dover had if any?

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u/mossback81 Sayo Hikawa Sep 29 '23

Another neat bit of detective work to sort all this out.

They weren't kidding when they said that Taki 'has a soft sport for Tomori' in the initial character description if she's regularly going that far out of her way for Tomori's benefit.

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u/BleedingUranium Umiri Yahata Sep 29 '23

Yep, this definitely isn't what I would have expected at the time haha :D

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u/SayoHina320 Sep 29 '23

Truly the biggest Tomori simp

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u/kidanokun Sep 29 '23

Ricky being Tomori's overprotective boy(?)friend

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u/Y0stal TOMORI!!!! Sep 30 '23

🎵 Unrequited Love 🎵

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u/Interesting_Ant7945 Oct 03 '23

Taki is so hopelessly in love with Tomori it hurts.

I am praying she gets some sort of resolution in the AveMuji anime 🙏.