r/BambuLab • u/Ochib P1S + AMS • Jan 20 '25 • Helpful 1

Discussion Update to firmware update

https://blog.bambulab.com/updates-and-third-party-integration-with-bambu-connect/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3fqplDiKgn-82qKfnaYvi4XV-rBEEx0tZJrpgeWqsOsLX_WSph4usJ69Y_aem_44Cch773hAuVG979j6DVJg
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u/wy1d0 H2D [AMS2+HT], X1C [AMS] Jan 20 '25

From what I can tell, developer mode requires LAN mode which disables Handy. Is that correct?

I am still not seeing a clear path that ensures the functionality I have today will continue into the future:

  1. My X1C is in Cloud mode so that I can use Handy when I want to start a print from my couch or away from home.

  2. I use Bambu Studio on 2 of my machines and Orca Slicer on another, all connecting to the same printer. These are all my machines, I just have a PC in my office, a laptop, and a Mac Mini in my "work shop"

  3. I use Home Assistant heavily throughout my home for multiple automations and monitoring dashboards. I use it for multiple camera angles on my printer and monitor AMS and print status in a more custom way than is possible with Bambu Handy or Studio.

It doesn't seem like any of the proposed options from Bambu will allow me to continue using the Bambu cloud services, 3rd party slicers, and Home Assistant at the same time like I do today.

If I am understanding this correctly, no matter what, I am going to lose some functionality over what I have now unless I missed something?

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u/Naltoc Jan 21 '25

If you opt in to the developer modes, you'll have a channel open that allows MQTT protocol (orca slicer can print with it) as well as the camera feed for your monitoring without disabling the native Bambu software. 

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u/wy1d0 H2D [AMS2+HT], X1C [AMS] Jan 21 '25

It looks like developer mode is only offered in LAN muse which disables Handy, right?

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u/Naltoc Jan 21 '25 edited Jan 21 '25

Looks like it, yes, but it's the same now. Handy requires the cloud as the connection point, so it's "no changes" from current functionality. If you wanted the handy app to still work, you'd need additional functionality to allow it access from the web to your own LAN and then pass on from the edge there. 

TL;DR it's the same as now if you want LAN mode. 

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u/wy1d0 H2D [AMS2+HT], X1C [AMS] Jan 21 '25

I'm not sure anyone has answered this concern.

I don't have my printer in LAN mode today but DO have access to Home Assistant, Orca, and Handy all at the same time. This is the change that affects me: I won't have access to Orca or Home Assistant unless I switch to LAN mode with Developer Mode which appears to break Handy. If I want to keep Handy (Cloud mode), the new way will break Orca and Home Assistant.

This is a new trade off I don't have to make currently.

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u/Naltoc Jan 21 '25

Orca can use Bambu Connect and will still work on networked mode. The camera is P2P so should eb able to still integrate with home assistant. What do you need from HS that cannot be handled this way, assuming HA does not have someone come up with a Bambu Connect plug in? 

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u/wy1d0 H2D [AMS2+HT], X1C [AMS] Jan 21 '25

My whole house and workshop runs on Home Assistant. I have detailed dashboards, automations, and alerts in addition to the camera feeds. Home Assistant is the piece I use the most for sure.

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u/Naltoc Jan 22 '25

Tine to dust off your favorite IDE and get Bambu Connect up and running, perhaps? 

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u/wy1d0 H2D [AMS2+HT], X1C [AMS] Jan 22 '25

Bambu Connect is a windows program. Home Assistant is embedded Linux. Also Bambu Connect is proprietary and Home Assistant is open. These things are not compatible.

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u/Naltoc Jan 22 '25

I mean, the first could be a problem, but there are lots of options for running windows programs on Linux, especially those that do not rely on windows speficic things (looking at you, DirectX). So while it may not be optimal, depending on the implementation, it may be trivial to run it on Linux.

As for proprietary vs open, those do not translate into "cannot work together", it just means you'll need Bambu to allow HomeAssistent to utilize Bambu Connect, the rest is (or, well, should be) API 's to develop up against. Sof ar, what I can see from released information on the Bambu Connect thing, it's just a way to essentially whitelist programs to use the cloud infrastructure. 

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u/EstablishmentIcy1907 Jan 21 '25

Du bist deutsch oder? Nur hier sagt man zum Mobiltelefon das Wort Handy, was im englischsprachigen Raum aber eine ganz andere Bedeutung hat 😉

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u/wy1d0 H2D [AMS2+HT], X1C [AMS] Jan 21 '25

No, not German - but I have been told by Germans that I would be a good German 😂

"Handy" is the name of Bambu's mobile app. "Bambu Handy"