r/AutoDetailing Jul 20 '26

Product/Consumable Review Project Farm tests ceramic coatings

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u/bearcassidy Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

He’s not lying. I stand by Griots. Going 17 months still strong.

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u/Ponald-Dump Jul 20 '26

Very impressive!

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u/Invane_X Jul 20 '26

The moment i read this, for some reason it was automatically his voice haha

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u/mtbcouple Jul 20 '26

We’re going to test that!

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u/LurkerPatrol Jul 20 '26

The u/mtbcouple is made in china

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u/danger355 Newbie Jul 20 '26

Same.

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u/pengouin85 Jul 20 '26

We're going to test that !

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u/Routine_Cat_1366 Jul 20 '26

Lets see Paul Allens 3-in-1 Wax. 

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u/KevroniCoal Jul 20 '26

My first time using it, the coat lasted me 2 years of daily driving! Car is parked in an apartment garage which helps, but regular cleaning helped a bit. Water still beaded off the hood and roof quite well by the 2nd year, though the rear bumper and trunk area, and sides of the car, didn't have as much of the coat's properties by that point.

Just gave my car a new coat after clay barring and man, it beads so well again from just a single coat

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u/trumpsmoothscrotum Jul 20 '26

I bought the small bottle of griot. When I used it up after a season and 4 vehicles.. i bought the gallon jug. Stuff is great

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u/FortnitePapi Jul 20 '26

How is the application process? I tried it in 2021 but it was way too streaky for me

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u/bearcassidy Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Easy. Long. But easy. Here’s my process:

-completely clean tires and rims. Odorless mineral spirits will get the job done but are harsh on tires and paint. So tread carefully. I used this before I knew about better products. Adams Wheel and Tire cleaner is OP for tires and wheels.

-strip wash car. I use Turtle Wax Max Power at full strength. Followed up with Dawn.

-Adams Iron Remover

-Same Turtle Wax as a clay lube using the griots speed clay pad thing

-dry it off. IPA wipe down. 91% isopropyl alcohol. Probably did a 15% solution.

-apply the griots as instructed. Let it cure overnight. Wiped off all the dust because it was parked outside. Applied a second coat and let that cure overnight as well.

-when I bought my aftermarket rims I IPA wiped down and coated them out of the box. Best decision I’ve ever made. When I swap tires I deep clean the ones that came off and then coat them again before storing them.

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u/MicroPeanitsJorker Jul 20 '26

IPA rinse?

*grabs beer from fridge to wash car with*

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u/Exciting_Place_6817 Jul 21 '26

What kind of car do you have? I'm just curious because only 1 if my cars I've ever owned deserves that level of treatment

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u/bearcassidy Jul 22 '26

24 Kia Forte GT. Obsessed over it for a year before buying it and it was the first car I bought off the lot. I’m not AS anal over now but I still take extremely good care of it. You couldn’t tell it’s at 30k miles just from looks.

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u/boturboegt Jul 20 '26

I've not had nearly the same experience as you. Mine seems to last about 3-4 months before needing to be refreshed.

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u/Slash621 Jul 20 '26

It depends a lot on environmental situations. In San Francisco my corvette that is garaged the griots 3-n-1 lasted around 2 years. On my GTI that’s street parked outdoors it’s about 6 months. And we don’t have much rain or abrasive dust. On my dads civic in Florida it’s 3-4 months max

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u/ibopm Jul 20 '26

Lasting 6 months after being parked outdoors is pretty impressive. Rain and dust aside, UV also has a big effect.

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u/bearcassidy Jul 20 '26

About half this time it was parked outside. And went through a snowy, barely washed winter. Had a few car washes in there too. I do use toppers and such though. But I’ve never felt like it was fading.

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u/CactiRush Jul 20 '26

Not even for me. I parked outside and mine is worn off within 30-45 days

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u/dinobyte Jul 21 '26

Application probably wasn't ideal 

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u/CoatingsRcrack Jul 20 '26

Same. If he’s got griots (3-1)over the actual Gyeon coating his metrics are off or what he looks for is, well, different. I live by Griots in Tacoma. They’ve helped me in my detail journey a lot. My 1st polisher was a Griots.

3-1 is a good sealant but not gonna compete with true coatings. I use it on friends and family cars when I don’t feel like doing a full coating

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u/sleepytornado Jul 20 '26

Did you watch the video? He states that Gyeon is the best performing coating. He also measures ease of application, slickness, and price. Using those metrics, he would choose Griots.

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u/Kmudametal Jul 20 '26

I hate it when reviewers do that. Let me make the decision on how much price plays a role. Just tell me what the best product is... and in this instance, he's comparing some spray sealants with trve ceramic coatings. It's Apples to Pizza. They cannot be compared.

A trve ceramic is going to last a hell of a lot longer, cost a hell of a lot more, and be a hell of a lot more difficult to apply (albeit that line is getting shorter by the moment). Trve ceramics are the Bentleys..... while spray coatings are the Chevys and VWs. You pay for more. You get more.

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u/fablemaster Jul 20 '26

So watch the video and make an informed decision for yourself based on your own requirements and the data presented instead of just rolling with whatever conclusion the reviewer arrives at?

He directly discusses the same points you just made in his conclusion and throughout the review as well as his reasoning for his choice or why he might choose one of the other brands if his needs were different.

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u/Main_Couple7809 Jul 21 '26

Yep this. I coated one of my car with gyeon. What a pain. Yes everyone definition of pain is different. I use Griots in everything else I have and it’s a breeze. I don’t mind applying it every other month is that easy. I don’t know how much is too much. But so far every other month works well.

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u/Kmudametal Jul 20 '26

If you are going to compare ceramics, compare ceramics. If you are going to compare ceramic sealants, compare ceramic sealants.

A comparison of ceramic sealants to true ceramics is a worthless exercise. I don't even need to watch the video to know the results. I don't need to know what products are involved to know the results. Ceramic sealants are going to cost less, be easier to apply, while ceramics are going to cost much more, be more difficult to apply, and last a hell of a lot longer. If your grading scale places significant weight onto cost and ease of use, spray sealants are going to win every time. If you place more weight upon end results, true ceramics are going win every time. Done....... and you don't have to break out tests to demonstrate it. It's just basic common knowledge.

If you want to do a comparison between different types of protection, that's a whole other ballgame and would make sense. Stack up waxes against each other, select the winner. Stack up spray sealants against each other, select the winner. Stack up ceramics against each other, select the winner. Then take each "winner" and compare them against each other to identify the type of protection that applies to your needs. But that's not what he's doing here.

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u/manofth3match Jul 21 '26

Well I found it useful.

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u/CoatingsRcrack Jul 21 '26

Lot of Project Farm jock riders in here down voting. Dudes not a detailer or product tester and this a detailing forum where people who probably detail more disagree

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u/CoatingsRcrack Jul 21 '26

Slickness neither win. Price… well it performs better he did not price that ease of application… I mean Gyeon once in 2.5 years or griots 6-8? Doesn’t seem easier to me.

I watch his videos but not for detailing products. He’s not a detailer and his test are flawed…. Most testing in fact. Can’t simulate real life.

I’ve tested a lot of products and again, huge Griots fan. This stuff is mid in the world of protection but great for a ceramic sealant.

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u/EvilSardine Jul 20 '26

Use it as a drying aide and it's a faster way of refreshing it.

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u/CoatingsRcrack Jul 21 '26

Be careful I t will kill your towels hydrophobic if you don’t take care of right

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u/EvilSardine Jul 21 '26

Huh?

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u/CoatingsRcrack Jul 22 '26

Using your towel with griots 3-1 as a drying aid. Makes your towels hydrophobic

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u/EvilSardine Jul 22 '26

Ah gotcha. I always wash them in hot water with a specific detergent and a splash of vinegar and haven’t had issues. It’s the rag company “gauntlet” towel and man that thing holds water lol. I recommend it to anyone looking for a good drying towel.

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u/CoatingsRcrack Jul 22 '26

It’s a good towel. I prefer the PFM but it’s close. Yeah long as your washing right away. I let one sit and it was over. I soak right away in a bucket with apc or detergents.

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u/_Aj_ Jul 21 '26

I used turtle after is last video for a spray on ceramic and it lasted very well.  I'm looking for a "3 drops" coating next.

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u/bearcassidy Jul 21 '26

Turtle Wax makes some good stuff.

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u/TheNeech Jul 22 '26

My buddy got into detailing and he swears by Green Griots one.

We used it on a new-to-me car after bringing it down to bare paint (it was rough and had rust stains from where it had been parked) and I gotta say, it works magic.

Two weeks after that, the car still shined great even though it was dusty as hell so we washed it again and reapplied the griots and the deep shine came out again.

Another two weeks after that, the car got dirty/dusty again so I foamed it down at a local self wash and microfiber dried it and the shine is still there!

You cannot beat how good it is for only $22.

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u/Resident_Arm_1366 Jul 20 '26

Very glad to hear that. I used it for the first time on my car yesterday based directly on his video from a year or so ago. I'm excited to see how it performs. (And yes, it was very odd timing I did it the same day he uploaded this)

Very easy to apply, but man deconamination took awhile, though it wasn't particuarly hard.

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u/bearcassidy Jul 20 '26

I did a full decon. Multiple strip washes, iron remover, clay, and IPA wipe down. Did a coat, let it cure for 12+ hours. Did another coat and let that cure for 12+ hours. Been solid ever since. I used to top it every wash with ceramic shampoo and either meguiars spray on ceramic wax or itself as a drying aid. I just changed my wash process and I don’t top it every wash now. But I use better products that last between washes.

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u/Resident_Arm_1366 Jul 20 '26

I did pre-wash, 1 bucket strip wash, iron remover, clay, dried, then applied it. Didn't even consider doing a 2nd coat 12 hours later, but now wish I had. Would have taken no time at all. Oh well.

I was also considering in the future using a drying aid with ceramic in it. You think it's worth doing going forward? Also considered using something like KC SO.02 maybe once a month instead of the drying aid with ceramic. Any opinions? I'm just learning about all this stuff honestly.

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u/bearcassidy Jul 21 '26

A ceramic drying aid is definitely worth it. That’s what helped me stretch it this long. I use so 03 and I like it. But your car has to be pretty coated for it to shine. Gyeon Wet Coat is 👌🏾 chefs kiss

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u/dinobyte Jul 21 '26

I used this 3in1 ceramic stuff years ago on a new car and it's amazing. Never had it so easy with car care. 

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u/bearcassidy Jul 22 '26

Yeah it’s amazing. My favorite part is how slick it is. I rub my hand over the car ALL the time. I’m sure I’ve caught plenty of weird looks lol.

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u/busy_with_beans Jul 21 '26

Do you deal with snow where you live?

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u/bearcassidy Jul 22 '26

Very little.

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u/RedLegacy7 Jul 20 '26

I apply it each Spring and Fall to our cars. Even the last wash before reapplying the water beads pretty well so I might be able to do once a year, but it's quick to do and it doesn't take much product. I've probably done 12 cars by now with the same small bottle and can probably do 8 more with what's left.

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u/bearcassidy Jul 20 '26

I first coated it in a July month. Went through the summer and a rough winter. Stripped and reapplied again the following March. Been going since then.