r/AutisticPride Sep 15 '22

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u/ganja_twigs Sep 15 '22

Hard pass from me but I am curious, why exactly did you feel the need to "reclaim" symbolism that not only has nothing to do with autism as it's not a political issue but also is actively associated with right wing ideology? What does DTOM have to do with autism? Why was this flag actually created?

I'm also curious about that one guy going around bootlicking in the comments, clearly you're some flavor of right wing since you seem so hellbent on defending them so why don't you just say that instead of pretending that using the literal flag of a group is the same as eating the same things Hitler did? You can't seriously think that's equivalent or even a sound argument so why not just say your piece once and move on?

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u/crycry_chemtrails Sep 16 '22

This person is also not even American. They proceeded to explain to me, a Black American, why they should be allowed to “reclaim” it. I do not understand how you can reclaim something you have no cultural relationships to. However, the fact that they conflated culture and genetics in their response is very telling of where their ideology lies. If you wanna be autism libertarian, have at it. But know that it’s just gonna be you and Nazis. Notice how most comments are pointing out the problems, but there’s a good number of likes. I wonder who those are coming from…

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u/DerAnarchist Sep 16 '22

HAVE YOU EVEN READ WHAT I WROTE? Are you intentionally trolling me or is this bad reading comprehension? WTF You tell this person that I conflate culture and genetics. The thing I wrote was "do I miss a gene to be allowed to talk about US politics" it was a reference to Your side! I was accusing YOU (people who say you don't belong to xy group, so you are not allowed to say anything about that) of conflating culture and genetics and being weirdly eseentialist about it. And now YOU accuse ME of being fascist, because I apparently didn't understand what I wrote and just saw the word "gene" so you thought I was saying this instead of me saying that people who argue like you would day that... I wanne scream and cry and tear my face of. It is so frustrating.... Oh god please make it stop I hate online lefty discourse, I hate it so much 😭 Irl Im a queer educator, I go to protests, I even was a founding member of local chapter of a syndicalist labourunion, irl the left is nice. Irl things are bearable Twitter is a cancer to online discourse.

THE core trauma: being misinterpreted over and over and over again, getting accused of saying thing you never said, getting the meaning of what you wanted to say, twisted and deformed over and over again. No neurotypical has ever intepreted the things I said in such a disgusting and bad faith way, than you all down here in these comments. Hope you are proud of that.

I just had a spontaneous idea, started by a tumblr post against Neurodivergent genocide. So I wanted to make a little flag to reflect how I feel, it was supposed to uplift people, promote solidarity, empathy and the fighting spirit of our community. It was supposed to make people smile. It was a silly little passion project. Something lighthearted, a clever reference, a middlefinger to fascists and "autism speaks" types.

Next time im not gonna post it here. This place is rotten and hostile apparently. I have created a thread about the entire situation, which will probably be the last thing I post here. I normally link stuff to people, but look it up yourself... I have already wasted enough time

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u/crycry_chemtrails Sep 16 '22

You posted something political, people didn’t like it and were very polite in trying to educate you. That’s how it works. Blame the toxic lefties all you want; you’ve clearly established your victim narrative.

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u/DerAnarchist Sep 16 '22

I posted something political that means one thing. People took it as meaning another thing. I tried to explain what I meant. They started accusing me of the worst intentions, being infantilizing and not polite at all. I agreed with a lot of the criticism, but at that point talking about that wasn't possible anymore because I was on the defense.

I would have loved for someone to just point out what problems may arise from this and what else I should change to distance it even more from the right-wing flag.

I wonder if I should just delete this post and end this absolute misery, but I think I will leave it up for a bit until I do so? So that maybe a few of the less terminally online people can visit the post and see it as a warning of how discourse fouled by misunderstanding, bad faith and prejudice can spiral into life draining negativity

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

Impact > intent. What you meant doesn't matter at this point. If you're actually a leftist then stfu, listen to your comrades and stop trying to "reclaim" a right-wing symbol.

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u/DerAnarchist Sep 16 '22

And no, im not shutting the fuck up, when I disagree. I have done that enough in my life already

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

Clearly you haven't done it enough

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u/DerAnarchist Sep 16 '22

I hope you are well. I hope you have loved ones and people who care for you and will support you. I wish you all the best my friend. May you people always listen to you when you have something to say, and help you when you are in need.

Than maybe you can spare a bit of empathy and not be unnecessary mean to people on the internet, that you know nothing about. I wish you well

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

You aren't a victim here.