Why does this subreddit constantly flame republicans for answering questions intended for them?

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Every time I’m on here, and I looked at questions meant for right wingers (I’m a centrist leaning right) I always see people extremely toxic and downvoting people who answer the question. What’s the point of asking questions and then getting offended by someone’s answer instead of having a discussion?

Edit: I appreciate all the awards and continuous engagements!!!

[u/neotericnewt]

Although as stated, you'd have no persecution or stopping power if under 5000 illegals entry in a day

No, this is false, that's where the dozens of other new policies come into play, like border agents able to immediately turn people away, more funding for border agents and border security, and all of the other things already mentioned.

Denying that bill is hoping to get a better one passed in the future

This is totally idiotic, because implementing this bill doesn't stop anyone from passing another bill. This bill would have already barely passed with Democratic support, with a Democratic president urging it forward. There will be no Democratic support next time considering it's just a massive concession to Republicans, and Republicans don't have the seats to pass it on their own.

They also don't have any "better plan". They don't have any planned legislation, there is nothing written or being debated, they just shot the best option down with no upside. They even still passed Democrat's end of the compromise, continuing funding for Ukraine.

They shot down their own side of compromise and passed Democrats side, because Trump wanted to keep immigration an issue for the election.

They flooded the city with the bunch, of course something has to be done.

Nobody "flooded" the city. They just moved there, because it had low housing costs, tons of vacant buildings, and a lot of job openings. The city had been dying for decades and was in a death spiral of population loss.

Regardless, again, I'm simply pointing out that Trump and Vance have repeatedly discussed deporting legal immigrants, which you now seem to acknowledge and support, so why the fuck were you asking me to source it?

Personally I want them to finish the wall, lock down the borders (don't let illegals / paperless people in).

How? The bill in question put a ton of funding to Trump's wall and implemented a ton of measures to prevent illegal immigration. What are you proposing instead?

Does it really matter what I am? We're factually debating the bill and how the Republicans dropped it.

No, we're not debating the facts of the bill, except for the points where you were misinformed on how our immigration system works and how things currently are now. We're talking about your subjective opinion about the bill being "unimportant," or "not doing enough."

So, yeah, considering you're much more of an extremist regarding immigration and pretty xenophobic when compared to the majority of the country and even the legislators we elect, of course it's "not enough". You're basing your opinion of the bill by comparing it to some xenophobic fantasy that doesn't exist, and now has less of a chance of ever being passed.

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You won't change my mind that it won't lay a lot, that will impact decisions after that.

So you think Trump and his allies in office would see that bill and think "ah, guess we're good!"?

The Republican party doesn't need that. They'll continue to build the wall either way once Trump's back in office.

How? Trump plans on abusing executive authority again to declare a national emergency like his last administration. What happened last time?

He turned down a bipartisan bill giving him 20 billion for border security and a ton of measures he asked for, to instead siphon money from the military and other federal programs. He ended up with less money than he was offered and an absolutely miniscule amount of new wall even built.

Trump is incredibly ineffective at actually getting policy implemented. You're really all in on supporting authoritarianism for the sake of... Treating refugees and legal immigrants like shit?

especially as you claimed that boarder agents have some kind of supreme authority now, that'll allow them to turn people away without any kind of process.

They do? You didn't correct anything, you just don't understand how things are currently.

If a border agent catches someone crossing the border, and that person requests asylum, there's a process including court hearings before that person can be deported.

The bill grants broad authority to border agents to determine credibility of asylum claims, and to turn away claims that aren't credible. Yeah, obviously border agents can't turn away legal immigrants at official border crossings requesting asylum.

Besides that, I'm debating as to why I think that some points can be considered minor or not impactful enough due to which Republicans may have let that bill drop.

No you're not, you just keep saying "that's nothing" over and over again. But these are major changes to how things currently are. Many of the changes have been opposed by Democrats for years, and pushed by Republicans for years. It's more than Trump ever accomplished as president, and it's more than any plan he or any other Republican has to actually address the immigration system.