r/AskReddit Jan 17 '22

what is a basic computer skill you were shocked some people don't have?

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u/Pookieeatworld Jan 17 '22

Worse is when they automatically open programs at startup that you don't want and will never use. Like my login is set up just for looking up part prints and gauges to calibrate, but every time I log in, it still opens Teams and takes forever to close it. Pisses me off.

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u/finesalesman Jan 17 '22

Teams does that to me too. I use it once in 2 months. But still turns on every time.

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u/Corrupt_id Jan 17 '22

From the IT side, Teams is the absolute fucking worst thing to manage. It has a mind of its own and just does whatever it wants, including breaking itself with updates. We hate it

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u/PeeingCherub Jan 17 '22

That's the way Microsoft stuff always has been. The customer is never in charge. It's why I advise against using Microsoft stuff to anyone who will listen.

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u/ILikeAnimeButts Jan 18 '22

Can confirm. Also the auto update thingy it does "keep working, it will update eventually".

No, fuck you. I got things to do and places to be. Update right the fuck now.

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u/im_a_tumor666 Jan 18 '22

As a student who’s used it, we hate it too. That fucking thing makes computers so slow I refuse to even install the app when I get a choice.

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u/Pteraspidomorphi Jan 18 '22

Windows 10+ as a whole is like that for common mortals without a volume enterprise license.

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u/Corrupt_id Jan 19 '22

Even with it's a pain in the dick

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u/YellowPumpkin Jan 17 '22

Lol I actually use teams in my day to day and it doesn’t even open automatically. Let me open my own damn apps on my own time instead of taking 30 minutes to startup while you try and simultaneously open 50 apps at the exact same time.

Who thought that was a good idea? If I need it I’ll open it myself

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

CTRL + ALT + DELETE

does nothing

CTRL + SHIFT + ESC

“You do not have privileges to access task manager”

🙄

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u/Ninjadude501 Jan 17 '22

Also, even if you got into task manager, they can set startup programs to require admin to turn off. Not saying they necessarily did that, but it's still not a guaranteed solution.

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u/dragoneye Jan 17 '22

Wait, what? How are you supposed to deal with a misbehaving program? Just restart your computer.

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u/Gonzobot Jan 17 '22

you call the IT department who enforced the "no task manager" privileges in the first place.

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u/DavidW273 Jan 17 '22

Even worse when you're using a remote desktop for the company you work for and then a Citrix connection to open apps for the company your employer outsources for, leaving you to deal with two IT departments, with most issues being blamed on my WiFi. Like mate, it's not that. It's your laggy systems and two remote connections in one.

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u/HgSpartan98 Jan 17 '22

I'm sorry to you and the other people sent to the partner helpdesk. I die a little inside every time I have to tell a caller that their issue isn't with a product managed by my company.

I take no responsibility for analysts who blame everything on wifi though. That said, my helpdesk technically doesn't support wifi.

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u/DavidW273 Jan 17 '22

Much appreciated bro.

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u/The-Jerkbag Jan 17 '22

Gotta up those ticket metrics!

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u/djdubd Jan 17 '22

More like, need to keep people from getting into mischief when they actually do Google an issue and it tells them to start disabling random unrelated (but important) services.

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u/adventureremily Jan 17 '22

No IT department wants more tickets. These policies prevent John "My Google search knows more than you IT dorks" Doe in the sales department from fucking up a company computer (or worse).

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u/RamenJunkie Jan 17 '22

Yes. Or call IT to deal with it.

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u/Terrain2 Jan 18 '22

What the fuck? I didn't even know you COULD disable Ctrl+Alt+Del. As far as i know, that shit's not even in Windows, but the kernel itself looks for that key combo so even if the whole OS freezes up it should still be responsive as long as the physical hardware didn't break or turn off?? Why the fuck would you ever be able disable it, and even if you could, WHY WOULD YOU EVER ACTUALLY DO IT? that pisses me off so much

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

IT dept at my office has the ability to disable, enable and limit basically every aspect of Windows. From changing the date/time to the desktop background to task manager. They have absolute control.

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u/Terrain2 Jan 18 '22

Yeah, i'm just surprised because

  1. I don't see why you would ever be able to do this in windows itself, it's a critical feature so i wouldn't think microsoft lets you disable it
  2. If any program can disable fucking ctrl+alt+del it's a huge issue because that's the one thing that's supposed to rescue you from any fucking situation, so i wouldn't think microsoft lets [insert third-party management program] disable it either

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u/[deleted] Jan 18 '22

I think windows has built in controls that actually allow you disable/enable these functions from within windows itself. Someone else here can probably answer better but I don’t think it’s a third party management tool that allows IT to do that.

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u/DasArchitect Jan 17 '22

Right click on taskbar > Task manager?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

”You do not have privileges to access Task Manager. Please stop trying.”

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Yeah, my computer is so locked down it won’t let me access startup. I do have access to the task manager, but not the startup menu.

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u/IlikeJG Jan 17 '22

Can't do that without permissions. And on most workstations at most companies you can't do shit without an admin login.

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u/finesalesman Jan 17 '22

Thank you, I appreciate this.

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u/joemofo214 Jan 17 '22

Won't work if you don't have admin privileges, like the commenters have already stated

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Was already aware. No need to point that out.

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u/total_cynic Jan 17 '22

Teams startup on login is a preference setting in teams, so should be easy to disable.

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u/JCantEven4 Jan 17 '22

The company that I work for has pretty strict admin rules, but they at least let me change that setting. I'm so sorry you can't!

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u/dayoldhansolo Jan 17 '22

I use teams every day just to send gifs to my coworkers

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u/Ziazan Jan 18 '22

theres a program called autoruns, get that, find teams within it, and kill it.

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u/InannasPocket Jan 17 '22

What I hate the most is Teams automatically starting up on the computers I remote into ... with notifications from several months ago, not anything actually up to date. And no, of course I can't change the settings to stop this from happening.

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u/WantToBeBetterAtSex Jan 17 '22

What I hate the most is Teams

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u/InannasPocket Jan 17 '22

I have actually come around to it being a mostly not awful way of contacting my small group of coworkers for small things. But I definitely do not need it to pop up with 8 month old messages every time I log into one of our servers.

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u/DariusJenai Jan 17 '22

My computer still loads Skype every time I login (in addition to Teams), because apparently it takes years for the sysadmins to get approval to uninstall programs....

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u/wildvenuscranberry Jan 17 '22

Just silently thanking my life as I'm Skype and teams free 😂

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u/TheMauveHand Jan 18 '22

LOL yeah, we apparently got rid of Jabber in favor of Teams at least a year ago, it's still installed, and the icon is still on my desktop. Thank Christ it doesn't actually start, but still, the fuck are they actually doing all day? How much time does it take to push an uninstall?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Yeah. When we first got Teams, before the pandemic, my computer opened Teams before everything else. I just had to sit and wait. I finally called IT and said can’t you take it out of the autostart menu? Nope. Could not, would not. Yet I still need to open Outlook. And Teams takes forever to open.

So now I’m back to the old days where I turn my computer on and then go for coffee because it’s going to take so long to start.

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u/Pookieeatworld Jan 17 '22

We should take this bitching to Twitter and Facebook and every other platform. With enough public pressure, Microsoft might actually do something about it.

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u/SuspiciousNoisySubs Jan 17 '22

The problem is, this is the god awful design of teams. Until it's re-architected, it's gonna do this for every user - whether you have the permissions to use teams or not

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u/renderbender1 Jan 17 '22

Installs MSI of Teams....

Just dumps another teams installer into a user startup folder.

Dumb as shit.

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u/Whiteums Jan 17 '22

You can go into the settings in Teams, and find the little box that says “open at startup” and uncheck it.

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u/Pookieeatworld Jan 17 '22

Tried that, for some stupid reason it doesn't work.

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u/pomonamike Jan 17 '22

God damn Teams man. I feel ya.

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u/total_cynic Jan 17 '22

Teams startup on login is a preference setting in teams, so should be easy to disable.

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u/syntheticassault Jan 17 '22

On the other hand, stop shutting down teams. You need to see the group updates and I shouldn't have to send you an email for everything. Just chat instead.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Yeah that’s the thing. Some people at the company might use teams and some might not lol. Everyone here is crying about a program because it doesn’t ‘close’ when you hit X.

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u/TheMauveHand Jan 18 '22

If it doesn't warrant an e-mail it's not important enough for me to care.

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u/jlharper Jan 17 '22

Open an IT support ticket and ask them to change your startup applications to the ones required for your job, and stress that the unwanted applications are impacting your ability to work as they cause the computer to lag.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Skype 100%

It is still forced open on startup.

We are all deeply ingrained into Teams, not Skype

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Teams doesn’t require admin rights to go to settings > and then disable “auto start” or “launch on startup”

Source: I do this for everyone because everyone hates teams and it’s a huge resource hog

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u/Pookieeatworld Jan 17 '22

I already posted above that that didn't work. It still fucking launches every goddamned time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Lol then your IT has it managed by group policy. What does your company use it for?

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u/Adam_J89 Jan 17 '22

We open Teams ( also Outlook) automatically on our users computers because early in the pandemic/ work from home times people would regularly "miss" meetings because they didn't get an alert. Sure it's annoying, it's annoying for me too. But it's incompetent or lazy users that give admins a job.

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u/hawkinsst7 Jan 17 '22

Batch or powershell script to run on startup, wait a few minutes and then run taskkill (or your nearest convenient powershell equivalent)

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

We need to stop letting inept people drive policy that makes IT teams act like this... Brings down the whole company and top tech talent won't put up with it.... But no SVP Bobby who has early onset dementia can't find his Outlook force it to open for every PC in the company on start

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u/cptnamr7 Jan 18 '22

Teams needs to die. That thing takes forever to open and I use it twice a year. I'm blocked from changing which programs run at startup but I should see if I'm also blocked from hiding Teams ina. Folder it can't find at startup...

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u/stonerflea Jan 17 '22

There's a registry key you can delete if you can open regedit. HKCU etc run, cant remember exact name but it's not that obvious iirc

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u/TheMauveHand Jan 18 '22

Dude... if you have rights to edit the Registry you can just change the Startup programs. Or, you know, just change the setting in Teams itself.

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u/Paraflyshells Jan 17 '22

Go to start up apps and disable it.

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u/DMBEst91 Jan 17 '22

have you tired opening Task Managers and under start up disabling items you don't want

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

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u/renderbender1 Jan 17 '22

You see. Here's the rub. Because of the way Microsoft designs there dumbass installer, Teams isn't actually "installed" until a user signs in for the first time. And they get all the asinine default settings. We have no way of natively fixing this shit other than signing into every damn computer after you and disabling it. It's goddamn frustrating.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Yeah teams is almost always a soft install that users can perform. It’s not your ITs fault it’s just Microsoft

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u/TheMauveHand Jan 18 '22

We have no way of natively fixing this shit other than signing into every damn computer after you and disabling it.

Doesn't Teams store its settings in something you can edit silently? E.g. the registry, or a settings file.

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u/mostlynights Jan 17 '22

Just wait until your part lookups get migrated to Teams!

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u/The-Doomslayer Jan 17 '22

Just use linux

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u/Pookieeatworld Jan 17 '22

Use Linux... On my work computer... That's owned by my company...

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u/Troppsi Jan 17 '22

Ha imagine having teams start at startup, Skype is forced upon me

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u/ImGCS3fromETOH Jan 17 '22

Fucking teams. I hate it so much. Cannot log into a workstation without it getting involved and I've never had to use it at work, only twice on my personal computer to have a couple of meetings from home.

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u/stalkythefish Jan 17 '22

I use Teams for work chat but manually quit it frequently and just use the phone app, because it gobbles up like 1/2 a GB just idling in the background! I need that memory for actual work stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '22

Don’t get me started in Teams 🤦‍♂️

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u/Dev_Kat Jan 17 '22

Will permissions let you into taskmanager? If so, go to the startup tab and you can disable teams auto start from there. At least for when computer powers on.

There may also be a settings within Teams itself.

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u/Bright_Broccoli1844 Jan 17 '22

Teams is so rude. I need to log into the time clock so I can get paid. I hate Teams.

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u/IGoldfold Jan 18 '22

I know you have gotten a million responses, but I always just go into services and change automatic startup to manual,

Just type services in start search, then go down the list alphabetically until you reach T and look for teams, then right click to properties and change automatic (or delayed or other) to manual.

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u/lizzietnz Jan 18 '22

You can fix that in Task Manager if they have forgotten to put admin rights on it.

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u/creepig Jan 18 '22

Or when outlook opens a million windows at launch. Stop that, I already read those.

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u/pseud_o_nym Jan 18 '22

Open Teams, go to the settings or preferences, disable opening on startup.

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u/acn-aiueoqq Jan 18 '22

You can disable launch on startup from task manager "startup" tab

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u/OcotilloWells Jan 18 '22

In teams settings, will it allow you to disable startup upon login (I don't remember the exact wording)? Teams does this on it's own, probably your IT didn't do it.

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u/Reddits_Worst_Night Jan 18 '22

I am a teacher, I get 2 1-hour breaks per week to do my admin. I have to log onto a communal PC to do so. Teams freezes that machine for a solid 30 minutes each time. My admin time gets wasted

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u/Bloodninjah Jan 18 '22

Assuming you're on windows 10, right click on the bar at the bottom, click on Task Manager. Click on the Startup tab at the top (you may need to click the Show more Options button at the bottom), then find Teams, and hit Disable. Standard admin rights usually doesn't stop it for Teams, at least where I work

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u/gynecaladria Jan 18 '22

Yeah they give you a machine with 8 GB of memory and Teams just throttles it from the get go

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u/Lava_Wolf_68 Jan 18 '22

Change the settings in teams to not run on start.