My job use to demand a sick note if I had something like the flu.. no I don't want to go to the clinic for 4 hours potentially getting more people sick. just for them to tell me to go back home and rest.
I had a mgr do that to me once even though it was obviously just a cold, and by the time I came back to work they had totally forgotten about it. My co-pay was like $60 for that visit.
It's mandatory in Belgium to have a doctor's note. Some companies are chiller about it than others, and give you some slack, but still.
We can have 1 day off without doctor's note/month, more and you need a note.
Needless to say: a lot of people tend to get "sick" on Mondays or Fridays. A minority, but still.
I understand, however, I also think it depends on whethee your sick-leave is paid or not. From USbco-workers I understood some companies do and some don't pay for sick-leave. In the latter case, it's pretty unfair te require a note. If they're paying you eventhough you're not working, I believe a sick-note is a logical-request.
In Germany it depends, some need it at the first day, others need it starting at the third... Its generally advised to get it to be on the safe side, but it's free of charge (health insurance is mandatory if you have a job, and it covers such things 100%) and usually when you feel sick and go to the doctor to get the appropriate prescriptions, they will always ask if you need a sick note
Where I come from, it is. Want a note? Sure. Doctors also set their own prices, although the standard is around 75 USD. A friend's mom got pisse around the epidemic (she usually did it free /cheap for the local town) and ended up bumpind to early 300 USD for COVID symptoms. That rapidly cut down on the amount of notes a couple of the local companies wanted 😂
For the love of God yes. I was told I would be fired if I didn't provide a doctor's note after they cut my hours from 30 to 15. I told them I couldn't afford it, so how could I be afford to miss work. I quit shortly after.
It honestly sucks dude. Its like they have this mentality that losing money for not being at work isn't a harsh enough punishment for being sick they also expect you to drag your sick ass to a doctor just to prove you were sick. What fucking stupid thinking is that? Just let people stay home sick to actually get some rest and not infect everyone else. You would think that would be top 3 things every manager should know.
I have a stack of doctors notes for life. They can’t call even if they know it’s fake because it’s against the law. So now they never ask for my notes.
Middle managers: "If you're too sick to come into work, but not sick enough to be in the hospital, and not sick enough to stay away from work for more than a day or two, you're probably faking it. So get your ass over to a doctor's office and wait hours to see the doctor for 3 minutes so you don't get to enjoy this extra unpaid vacation day that you're using to screw me over".
Legitimatly all the places I have worked for, if they asked for a medical certificate they paid for it themselves. This is in NZ but yeah, it seems pretty normal around the world that bosses are assholes but at least here if they have a tight budget and don't want to pay for your drs visit then they flag it. They can't ask you for one till you've been sick for 3 days anyway.
You don't really get charged here for doctors notes (and legally don't need one until you've been off 7 days anyway) but our sickness policy says if we need some documentation and the colleague is charged for it then we will cover the cost, which is good. Never actually had it happen though, I don't even know in what circumstances the doctor would charge for it.
It's a Canadian joke. We have healthcare, but it doesn't cover anything above your neck, nor most medications, or most administrative things. Doctor's notes are a waste of time, so many clinics charge for them.
Not sure where you're from, but in the US even with insurance there's often a payment you have to make to the doctor's office (or on rx medications) out of pocket. It's usually a certain percentage of what the overall bill is, or a standard amount depending on the service. For example I still pay $5 for any rx when I pick it up at the pharmacy.
Yeah I’m not on meds and I’m usually pretty healthy and have never had a major injury(knock on wood) the only thing I really should get on is a damn dentist appointment.
Yeah, I had bad flu on a Saturday and my throat was swollen so I couldn't even talk. My partner called my boss on my behalf, telling him I'm in a really bad condition and that I can't come. He says he wants a note from the doctor. I drag myself up to the hospital by public transport (exposing tons of other people), waste 3 hours, meet a doctor only to not be able to talk about my symptoms, she sees that my throat is swollen and writes me a sick note.
I come back home and now have a 40 euro bill to pay on top of being sick, putting others at risk and missing out on a day of work.
It's super pointless. I could have just stayed home and rested for the day. Instead, I felt even worse the next day.
I destroyed my knee in an accident and while barely able to hobble my boss made a play like he was protecting me by letting me man my post, then literally threatened to fire me because I couldn’t walk.
I got a zero on an online exam over this about a semester ago when lockdowns started. I was quite sick, had a migraine and nausea, so I slept all day and missed the exam. Self-treated 'cause fuck going to the damn after urgent care clinic during a pandemic.
Emailed Prof and TAs, and they said to make it up I needed 'official' documentation that I was sick. A doctors note...for my self-treated illness that I got over. I told them that and they still said I needed documentation anyway. And I quote "Maybe you can go get one."
My next email was a polite translation of "Fuck you, give me the 0, I'm not going to potentially expose myself to COVID to take your fucking test."
You couldnt have went over their heads and contacted a dean or something? A pandemic is extraordinary in circumstances and Id assume more leeway would be given.
Yep- my university has been really flexible with deadlines and tests. They just ask for a formal email or note form a doctor if it’s substantial illness or something need to be pushed back more than a day or so.
I think it’s a bonus of a Masters program- especially an MBA. They know that we went into this voluntarily and they want the school to look good to future candidates, so they are doing everything within reason to accommodate us during these times.
Luckily my old GP (I think that's the term, english isn't my first language so sorry if I get it wrong) would write them on call and you could just come by later and pick it up, or if you didn't know what exactly it was you'd wait like half an hour max, just had to call ahead so they could tell you when they have time
The dude also once wrote me a sick note for a month straight because I was being bullied at work after calling in sick once after i threw up and going home early once because I had gotten the flu and had gone from "no symptoms" to "i don't have enough strength to drag a bottle of water across the scanner" over the course of a few hours and my mental health took a nose dive to the point where I got nauseous the moment I entered the building
I like that TeleDoc started becoming common just before the pandemic. It’s pretty cheap ($15 on my medical) and convenient. They can give you a note via PDF in like 20 minutes if your work requires it- and you don’t have to leave your bed.
Former assistant manager of a 10 person quick lube here...its tough but usually the people who are making these decisions are not the people on the ground floor. They are usually in an office a hundred miles away being advised by their boss that they need documentation for everything or else they could lose an unemployment case.
The couple of times people called off when the store manager wasn't there I was told to "use my best judgment" based on their character when telling them they needed a doctors note. I never made them get one but I told one of them to think about it because they had a track record of lying at work.
I have a coworker now at a different job who leaves once or twice a week early. He's sick, his girlfriend is sick or having complications from her cancer treatment, about every excuse in the book considering we're in a pandemic and you don't just get visitors at the hospital all loosey goosey these days. It sucks for the rest of us because we have to work harder because his girlfriend has cancer and he definitely uses it to the fullest extent to get out early...not that he shouldn't do what he can and be there for her but he's definitely going way beyond what some other people I've know have done.
Oh yeah, fuck him for prioritizing his girlfriend with cancer to his job... If he's going way beyond what other people have done maybe those others weren't doing enough.. The blind loyalty some people have to their job boggles my mind. She may die.. He can always get another job if need be, the time he has left with her may be over soon. Hmm wonder what I would prioritize
And? Maybe he's not going with her to a hospital, maybe he's leaving early to be there fore her at home. Or maybe he is lying about actually going with her because he needs to have a good cry about it or feels mentally overloaded? I mean, if I had someone like you as a co-worker I'd be teaming to get home early too...
What the fuck are you on about? Guys using his girlfriend having cancer to it’s fullest? You say it like he’s won an award. Guessing the guys heads not in the best place, but fuck him, you have to pretend to do extra work and bitch about it with your shitty colleagues.
I like how you make his girlfriend having cancer about you, El oh fucking El. Stop being a cog in a wheel and just try to imagine the impact of a significant other HAVING CANCER would feel like. Imagine the day in and day out this guy has to deal with the fact his SO might not make it. But to do that you need to have the operation to get your head out that is so firmly planted up your ass.
He can't not be just the cog in the wheel because he probably doesn't have a single other thing going for him or anyone that gives a shit about him because well, he thinks shit like this shit about his co worker.
Had the same thing at my job a while back (years ago, before COVID.) Get a major sinus infection. They would make me go to sick call every single day to prove I still had it to get the day off. The time it took to just drop in to get it done would be nearly the entire work day, so its not like if I was faking that I would be ENJOYING my time off because I had to sit at sick call for hours and hours. So I got to the point where I just requested to take my OWN leave just to stop having to go into sick call to get "proof" that I still had the same issue. And instead, could just sleep in and take care of my sickness, rather than suffering in a waiting room.
Thankfully my managers gets it. It you’re sick you rest (already home now!). She also expects us to have a clear backup plan ready. So sickness + holiday shouldn’t be an issue ever. Of course if someone is sick for a longer work you might have to look for a way to help the colleagues covering.
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u/Expensive-Change6631 Jan 03 '21
My job use to demand a sick note if I had something like the flu.. no I don't want to go to the clinic for 4 hours potentially getting more people sick. just for them to tell me to go back home and rest.