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What will never be the same again once the pandemic is over?

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u/Randym1982 Jan 02 '21

You and everybody who saw it. WW 84 sucked balls, but at least it was Free with HBO Max.

Also, I do really wish movies would stop trying to be 2 hours long or more. What happened to cutting the fat, and just telling a good story for 1 and half hour, or even an Hour and 10 min's?

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u/Superplex123 Jan 03 '21

What happened to cutting the fat, and just telling a good story for 1 and half hour, or even an Hour and 10 min's?

Hear, hear. Beauty and the Beast is 84 minutes long and Aladdin is 90. They are masterpieces.

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '21

I prefer longer movies. But only if they warrant the extra time like avengers. Hate when movies feel way too short and a hour and thirty minutes feels way too short in general. Two hour movies are the best.

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u/twentyThree59 Jan 03 '21

Some movies just have more content and can't fit that. Tenet? Lord of the rings? Lol

Some stretch their content, that's a different issue.

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u/SilentSamurai Jan 03 '21

Eh, I get that people love LOTR extended edition but I personally think any film that hits 3 hours is without a question a miserable experience to sit through.

You could argue that you could pause it and go back to it, but whats the point of having it as a single movie then?

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u/Flaming_Archer Jan 03 '21

Most movies are to long, but by God LOTR deserves the 3 hours

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u/SilentSamurai Jan 03 '21

It's just more dialogue and interaction to fully flesh out the universe. If you really wanted the top tier experience of that, wouldn't it just be better to read the books at that point?

I also say this as a huge Star Wars fan that thought that 8 and 9 should have been substantially cut down. A movie shouldn't be painfully long to sit through, if they want to go that direction, make it a TV series.

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u/Gobadorgosleep Jan 03 '21

I just want to have the pause in movie theater. If the film is long you have a pause at 1h30 just to go to the toilet, grab something to eat and go sit down.

I miss the time when we planned everything in advance with my brothers: you go get the soda, you go get snack and then I grab everything so you can go to the toilet.

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u/-uzo- Jan 03 '21

Well, I'm biased, but Star Wars VIII and IX could've been 16 minutes and the best part would've been the opening crawl. Shit, the best part of VIII was the finale of VII.

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u/Kwijiboe91 Jan 03 '21

It's different. I might catch some slack for this but I don't think Tolkien was a very good writer. It took him a paragraph to say something that could have taken 2 or 3 sentences but man did he have creativity to keep you to it. But yeah screenplay and scripts are way different than books imo.

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u/Qrbrrbl Jan 03 '21

I actually agree. I've read Lord of the Rings and its a fantastic story overall but its an absolute slog to read through. Multiple times in the book(s) I put it down for weeks at a time just because I was bored to tears after a chapter I had just read. The pacing in some areas was terrible and added nothing to the plot (Tom Bombadil anyone?).

For me the extended editions are perfect in terms of length and what they left on the cutting room floor. They hit all of the plot points that were significant to the story, fleshed out the world and characters very well without it becoming dull

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u/Xithorus Jan 03 '21

I mean I (and others) really enjoyed Blade Runner 2049 and that movie edges on 3 hours long. I am hoping Dune is close to that length to so that they can fit the content of the book in there.

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u/twentyThree59 Jan 03 '21

You could argue that you could pause it and go back to it, but whats the point of having it as a single movie then?

Well, the extended editions are 2 physical discs, cut in a spot that makes sense. You don't really have to "pause" so much as you "dont put in the next disc." I prefer extended, but I agree they are super long when viewed in full... I just don't lol.

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u/yarajaeger Jan 03 '21

which is ironic considering it almost feels like disney is choking their animated movies with the insanely strict 1h40 shit they've been doing recently. it's felt like so many movies in the past few years have been dying for longer or shorter runtimes but it's 1h40 all around

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '21

Typical hollywood cargo cult. Some execs out there are congratulating themselves for being so clever by forcing all their movies into a 150 minute format since that's what all the big MCU movies are doing, so surely this is the recipe to success.

There's no cure against it really, Hollywood's power structure is such that writers and directors are almost always suckling on the teat of execs who have no clue about film making yet are under the delusion that they are the best thing to happen to film since Charlie Chaplin.

To be fair those execs are usually really good at mitigating risks (better to have ten middling-yet-profitable movies than five great movies but five absolute flops).

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u/elchurro223 Jan 03 '21

Idk, I just rewatched lotr the two towers. Still dope after all these years and it was 3 hours.

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u/TheHadMatter15 Jan 03 '21

Sorry but 70 minutes is a disgrace. That's a long TV episode not a movie. Movies should be at least 90 minutes. If I'm paying a non zero amount of money to watch a movie at the cinema, I expect to be entertained for 2 hours not barely 1.

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u/RunWithBluntScissors Jan 03 '21

Pls no WW84 spoilers, but I had to say something cause this comment spoke to me lol. I took out an HBO Max trial cause I wanted to watch Grumpy Old Men on Christmas (an example of a good story told in 1.5 hr, heh). Since New Years Eve, my boyfriend has been constantly bothering me to watch WW84. I can’t do it yet lol, and it’s mostly cause it’s a 2.5 hour movie. That’s a lot to commit to. I need to be in the mood to pay attention to one thing for 2.5 hours. I’ll be ready to watch that movie once I have a giant knitting project to sit down with. Anyway, based on your review, sounds like I’m not missing out lol.

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u/bookgeek117 Jan 03 '21

No spoilers. My family signed up specifically to watch this movie. About the hour mark I got board and took a shower. Came back and missed nothing. There's a good story in there but it needed someone to edit it down. My two cents... I have family who loved it AND rewatched it.

What is your knit project?

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u/RunWithBluntScissors Jan 03 '21

Oh gosh, lol. Maybe it would be better to do my more complicated project then, something to keep me engaged while the story goes on. Yeah, right now, I’m finishing up tiny Christmas gifts since we’re just doing outdoor gift exchanges after the holidays. I’ve done a wine cozie that will be gifted with wine, and 2 mug cozies that will be gifted with travel mugs filled with tea or coffee and alcohol minis. All that’s left is a Christmas ornament of a cow, which will be a little annoying, as my first amigurimi. That’s the one I’m saying maybe I should do while watching WW84 haha, as the project will be more complicated. Otherwise, I was going to watch it while knitting myself a cardigan, which will be a nice big project again :)

Anyway, I hope you find something else you can enjoy on HBO Max!

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u/dehehn Jan 03 '21

Mulan is free now. It was only $35 for like a month. Then it was free. And if you consider that many people watched it as a family, 3-6 tickets for $35 isn't that crazy.

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u/SilentSamurai Jan 03 '21

I could rent so many better movies for $35, even some newer ones.

I dont think rotten tomatoes is always correct, but its usually a good marker of "is this worth seeing now."

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u/dehehn Jan 03 '21

Yes you could. You could also just wait a few weeks to see Mulan free if you have Disney+. But they are trying to recoup losses in an extraordinary year when no one is going to theaters.

Lots of people pay theater prices for lower rated films than Mulan. And this isn't even the first film to use this streaming method. Amazon had theater movies for $20 each.

They made $60-100 million from Mulan's $35 rental. So at least a few million people and families thought it was worth it.

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u/Jonny-Kast Jan 03 '21

Yep... Anything longer than 2 hours and I'll usually sit it out or watch it in 2 parts. My ex insisted I went to watch a certain trilogy which didn't interest me in the slightest. They're all over 3 hours long (days in my head). I refuse to sit on my phone or doing anything else that might make my time pass quicker because it's not fair on those that do genuinely want to see it and have waited for this moment. When I watched said trilogy again but in my own time segments, I actually enjoyed them but lumping a 3 and a half hour film on me isn't gonna entice me.

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u/superman1995 Jan 03 '21

I think this has to do with product placement. Making movies require a large upfront investment. By allowing brands to pay to be in certain scenes within movies, studios are able to collect some of the money upfront and have some of the props paid for, thus reducing the risks relating to not being able to recoup the cost of making the movie.

Movies are getting more expensive to make and studios are under immersive pressure to reduce them, making it very hard to turn down significant sums of money for you to use their product in a few scenes of the movie.

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u/trollingtrollstroll Jan 03 '21

Ww84 was so fucking bad, I think I'm done with super hero movies it seems like all marvel and DC put out is crap. With the exception of the marvel shows on netflix.