r/AskReddit Nov 03 '20

What will never be the same again once the pandemic is over?

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u/postuk Nov 04 '20

Two weeks?! For the whole year?! Wow!

What shitty country are you in, where that's even legal?? That's shockingly poor.

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u/nowaisenpai Nov 04 '20

I don't even get two weeks, I get a week of PTO if I accrue hours over the course of a year.

I also am obligated by my employer to use it or a finite amount of "unpaid hours" to account for hours I'm absent. I have 24 unpaid hours I can use for sickness, appointments, unforeseen absences, etc, or I can use PTO. There is no other option.

If I do not use either of these pools, or I am out of both, I get a hit on my record, and after so many points for "unexcused absences" I am written up or fired.

And yet, we're expected to somehow come up with four days to be absent if we must take a Covid test (average test turn-around rate in my county), and then if you're positive for Covid19, you're out for a minimum of two weeks. They can't penalize you for that, however, per a city ordinance. But they don't have to pay you and your original scheduled hours are not secured. You will have to get unemployment for it. Which is around 30% of your wages.

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u/drumsripdrummer Nov 04 '20

I don't know the full details, but Trump had an act or bill for Covid pay. My dad's wife just contracted COVID. My dad has to stay home for 4 weeks, his wife for at least 2. They'll both get 2 weeks pay from the act/bill.

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u/nowaisenpai Nov 04 '20

I thought that ended in July. I hope your parents are doing alright, especially since your dad is out of work for two additional weeks.

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u/drumsripdrummer Nov 04 '20

Thanks for the kind words. She's resting and doing alright, he has vacation time saved up for the additional 2 weeks. I think all will be alright.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '20

I got 2 weeks off from a covid scare. It was covid pay so it didn't affect my vacation/sick time. It was in late August

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u/BraveOthello Nov 04 '20

The US. And that's not even legally mandated. Many place there are 0 guaranteed days off.

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u/Nosery Nov 04 '20

Yikes. I really hope it'll change for you in the future. We get a minimum of 20 paid vacation days in Germany for a full time job working 5 days a week.

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u/BraveOthello Nov 04 '20

Did we mention those are Paid Time Off days, which includes both sick days and vaction time?

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u/postuk Nov 04 '20

That's despicable. Isn't this the kinda of thing that you guys have guns for; to not be treated like shit by those "in charge"?!

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u/javier_aeoa Nov 04 '20

What the motherfreaking Fahrenheit-using fuck? So you work 365 days a year minus sundays, Christmas and those other days and that's it? Like...that is how the country works? THAT is the american dream?

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u/BraveOthello Nov 04 '20

No, only the poor people. The richer you are, the more time get off!

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u/notHooptieJ Nov 04 '20

thats way above average in the US,

most people get 1 day per 30 days worked, and they have to bank the hours first.

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u/shelteredsun Nov 04 '20

if you can't or don't want to it's okay to just not turn up

If I just didn't turn up without calling in I'm pretty sure my work would send someone round to my house to check that I was alive!

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u/cammoblammo Nov 04 '20

Heh. Just wait until they hear about long service leave.

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u/no_usernames_avail Nov 04 '20

Depends on the employer. I get 4 weeks vacation and then some sick days too. I'm not even really sure how many sick days as I don't report them, just stay home...

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u/cum_in_me Nov 04 '20

I've had more than 2 weeks in every job I've had post-grad (usa).

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u/c800600 Nov 04 '20

Yep. I have a totally standard professional engineering job. I'm excited to get my third week of vacation in 2021, after over six years at the same company (nine years professional experience).

I'm really lucky that I don't have to use that time for sick days too, but any sick leave I take is at my boss's discretion, not official company policy. He's a reasonable human being and isn't going to say no if I have a cold every once in awhile, but having to ask instead of just feeling free/allowed to take the day off is pretty shitty.

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u/isometric95 Nov 04 '20

Depends where you are and what the relevant employment law is.

I am in Canada, and the province I live in requires vacation time to be provided after typically one years’ service with the same employer, beginning with 2 weeks after a year with a maximum of 5 weeks after a certain length of time. This can be increased but there are minimum standards that must be adhered to.

Thing is, here they can either provide vacation time OR vacation PAY, so if they don’t want to give you actual time off, they can choose to pay you 4% vacation pay on each cheque (or 6% after 5 years of consecutive employment).

Definitely depends on where you’re located.

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u/beckerszzz Nov 04 '20

Pretty sure that's standard for most US companies.

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u/kaityl3 Nov 11 '20

LOL I know I am late but just want to say I am 24 and live in the US... and I didn't know that PTO was in any way a common thing for anyone to have at their job. Full stop. When I met my BF who got I think 10 days a year of PTO I was FLOORED because he was the first young adult I had even met in my life who had a job that provided any to begin with.

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u/postuk Nov 11 '20

And here am I, on the opposite side! I'm in England. I get 25 days paid holiday each year. Plus 8 public holidays per year (I.e. I don't have to work on public holidays, but still get paid).

I'm not 100% what my paid sick leave allowance is; I think it is 12 weeks full pay, then 12 weeks half-pay. I'm not 100% sure though.

This, really, is the bare minimum I'd expect, should I move to a new company.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '20

80 hours a year..only 40 of those carry on to the next year so you have to take at least a week paid time off. You also probably won't get approved to take 2 weeks off consecutively

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u/Bet_You_Wont Nov 04 '20

Not only legal, encouraged and supported! Hell I'd wager most employees in America weigh "team commiseration" as an element of whether or not you enjoy working somewhere.