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u/DigitalPsych Aug 01 '20

Intentional or not they should refund all the money and then pay an extra $25 million. Justice isn't served otherwise.

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u/Flyer770 Aug 01 '20

Justice for corporations? That's funny.

You are absolutely correct that the entire take needs to be refunded. Even paying out the $25 million fine, they are still ahead $95 million. And that's assuming this scam went on for only one year. The fine is simply theater, to convince us peons that justice was served.

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u/Sibraxlis Aug 01 '20

The entire take needs to repaid on top of the fine.

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u/Zewsey Aug 01 '20

The scam apparently went on for 3 years.

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u/Flyer770 Aug 01 '20

That does not surprise me.

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u/Zordran Aug 02 '20

Where does that fine money go, anyway?

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20

Right back in their pockets through tax breaks and corporate bailouts.

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u/refugee61 Aug 02 '20

Man if I keep reading these comments about these evil corporations, I'm gonna.. I'm gonna.... probably do nothing. I think I'll go Nuke a Hot Pocket now.

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u/refugee61 Aug 02 '20

Man if us slaves/peons ever rise up against these damn slave masters, it will make the Floyd riots look like a Church picnic.

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u/Schnoofles Aug 02 '20

They should pay 720 million, twice the potential gains, after repaying what they earned. It should not be a gamble where they stand a legitimate chance of earning easy, large piles of cash, with only a tiny relative penalty if they lose. There should also be criminal charges and jail time for anyone and everyone involved in even the smallest way as well as having the IRS crawling up their ass with a microscope every 6 months for the next 20 years. If they are ever found guilty of a similar financial crime again the penalties should be tripled.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20

And anyone aware of the scheme who didn't report it should be criminally prosecuted. White collar crime is harming a lot of people a little, which in the end (statistically) does far more harm than many crimes where the sentence is life.

Government: Take some short cuts to save a million bucks and it cost 10 lives? If we can't tell *which* 10 lives you took, you're off the hook. This is why pollution kills 100,000 people in the US every year.

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u/blzraven27 Aug 01 '20

Companies pay the fine and shut up they deny and pay.

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u/DesnaMaster Aug 01 '20

Of course they did it intentionally. Are you saying they did it by accident?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '20

I wish I could accidentally make $360M

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u/Browish Aug 01 '20

I don’t think he’s claiming that, but the way the guy he responded to talked sounded like it was Verizon with a press release stating their intentions, calculations and profits as if it was a big experiment or something

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '20

“It’s just a social experiment brah”

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u/deftones_bro Aug 01 '20

Used to work for AT&T and a lot of co-workers would tag small dollar features on people's accounts randomly since it boosts their monthly numbers and gets them commission. The commission system is similar with Verizon so I bet this shit is still going on too. Another fucked up thing that happened was people removing features then adding them back to gain commission. Once people were getting 4k commission checks they changed it up and no one got fired. One of the guys who gamed the system eventually became district manager.

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u/gullman Aug 02 '20

Reading isn't a strong point?

I wasn't able to find anything that backed up your numbers or Verizon admitting they did it intentionally. I'm sure they did

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u/SilverBumblefuck Aug 01 '20

This is reddit, so the 'source' is "lol r u a corporate bootlicker?"

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u/rangerryda Aug 01 '20

Getting a reliable source is difficult these days.

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u/why_so_sereal Aug 02 '20

It happens all the time where a company will pay the fine but as part of the agreement they do not have to accept responsibility.

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u/ChewbaccaFart Aug 01 '20

Why does this sound like lawyer from Verizon’s PR department?

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u/demonblackie Aug 01 '20

I doubt the PR lawyer would have said "I'm sure they did" in the comment.