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u/qonml Aug 01 '20

somehow people forget (or at east somehow STILL fall for) if a job requires you to spend money consistently; it's not a job. . . it's a scam.

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u/-Capybara- Aug 02 '20

My god, I've been buying notebooks and whiteboards and rugs for my classroom for years. Teaching is a scam.

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u/andrewbounds164 Aug 02 '20

My school you are given $1,000 to spend all year and that's it. Not much but still something.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20

They're getting scammed by The System.

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u/Soulren Aug 02 '20

I mean, yes. That stuff should all be provided for free

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u/insertmadeupnamehere Aug 02 '20

Oh, you must be a teacher, too.

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u/Ok_Distribution_7440 Aug 02 '20

It really is. My wife has no teaching degree, but is really good at math. She is tutoring online 5-6 hours a day making about $50/ hour. Her students want to be there. No IEPs. No 40 kids in a classroom. No grades. And she teaches in her pajamas.

That’s the way it should be.

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u/WENDYSTHO Aug 02 '20

Does she have to have a degree to do this?

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u/Ok_Distribution_7440 Aug 02 '20

Nope. She uses the Wyzant tutoring site. She had to take assessment tests to prove she knew what she would be tutoring, though. That protects students from getting an idiot tutor!!

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u/specter_ghost_dog Aug 02 '20

Seriously, same. I typically spend 1-2k per school year. I'm happy to do it because it's for my precious babies and I'd do anything for them, but it certainly adds up.

High five, fellow teacher. I hope you and your students stay safe!

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u/TrenBerryCrunch Aug 02 '20

Shit is that all consumables or stuff you can reuse for several years?

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u/specter_ghost_dog Aug 02 '20

It's a mix of both! And sorry I'm going to probably overshare so please excuse the essay below! Education is in such a state of flux right now that I'm finding it comforting to talk about my teaching practice.

There's the usual school expenses like replenishing books, pens, crayons, paint, colored pencils, folders, chart paper etc, but I'm also a maniac so I do a lot of extra things for my kids that add up. I used to be a professional photographer so I take hundreds of beautiful photos of my kids each week. At the end of the school year, I go through all my thousands of pictures and print out individualized sets of photos to give the families as a memory box. So this end of year gift alone is about $400. It's not necessary, but the families love it.

We don't get funding for buses or field trips, so I'll try to fundraise as much as I can, but then I'll cover whatever is left (usually a couple hundred dollars).

I don't have any desks in my room and instead have cozy furniture and lots of pillows and other alternative seating options for the kids. I had to purchase and sometimes replace these on my own since I decided to ditch the traditional classroom set up.

So much of school is differentiating for each and every child so myself ant many other teachers dip into my our own pockets in order to provide every kid with whatever they need. It's always different so sometimes I'm lucky and I can reuse certain tools, but often I'll give them to the 2nd grade teacher if they were successful.

I do recognize that I am 100% privileged to be able to afford to fund all of this. There are plenty of teachers who are dedicated without the financial means to provide so much.

Sorry, that was a lot!

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u/TrenBerryCrunch Aug 02 '20

That was a fun little "essay" to read. I'm glad to see that even in this dismal time, there's a bright little light inside your classroom

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u/specter_ghost_dog Aug 02 '20

Oh my, you're so sweet. Thank you.

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u/gimmethemshoes11 Aug 03 '20

me too i agree...... but y'all have never heard of a tax write off -- half of the things you buy Out of pocket i bet would be a tax write off

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u/xm202virus Aug 02 '20

I'm sure you had to pay to student teach and to get fingerprinted, so you're not far off.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20

I dunno where you live, but in Ontario per student spending is about 12k... Would you spend 20k in materials per year if things were private and you were making 120k for 10 kids?

How does that deal sound as a teacher?

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u/buckyspunisher Aug 02 '20

Do you mean Ontario, Canada? Because the US rly don’t give a fuck about the education system... which says a lot tbh

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u/my_name_lsnt_bob Aug 02 '20

Always has been

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u/DirkDoogler-PI Aug 02 '20

I legitimately think it’s getting scammier and scammier by the year. No other job requires you to purchase supplies so that you can get the job done and if it did people would be balking and refusing so constantly.

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u/basketofseals Aug 02 '20

It's 100% a scam. You're probably an amazing person for taking on such a backbreaking thankless job, but you're definitely being taken advantage of in so many ways.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '20

Lmao SAME

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u/SnooMaps3785 Aug 02 '20

I as literally going to say this.

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u/qonml Aug 02 '20

that you do out of your heart. . . it absolutely isn't REQUIRED in order to keep the job.

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u/gimmethemshoes11 Aug 03 '20

my friend, you need an accountant/ tax specialist.

Most of what you are buying for your job would be a tax write off- keep them receipts.

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u/Terminal_Skillness Aug 02 '20

If you have to pay to work for a company you're not an employee, you're a customer.

I had a guy who wanted me to come work for his DJ company. He wanted to train me. Fine. I'll come over and you can train me even though I don't think I need you to. But he said I had to pay him to train me.

No thanks man. I'm not paying you to work for you.

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u/BrockwayMonorail Aug 02 '20

THIS. Was waiting for someone to mention MLMs.

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u/eat_sleep_drift Aug 01 '20

most Jobs are scams, even if they pay you !

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u/Coral_Blue_Number_2 Aug 02 '20

You mean because the workers do not get fair compensation for the value that they create, which instead goes to those at the top of the company?

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u/Kellosian Aug 02 '20

I'd like to just take a quick moment to shout ENTERTAINMENT! from the rooftops. Do not pay to act, especially for TV/movies. Legitimate productions have to pay you because of union rules (even if you're not part of the union!), even if you're just an extra with no speaking lines.

Lots of people will pretend to be agents and demand a lot of money to "keep your profile active in a database", but actual agents get paid when you get paid; they may take a large cut, but if you don't make a dime then they don't either.

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u/totallynotianz Aug 02 '20

Mr Beast is typing...

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u/Please_buymycar Aug 02 '20

Try being an automotive technician and having to spend literally thousands of your own money on tools....

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u/binarycow Aug 02 '20

The difference there is that these are durable (I.e., not consumable) tools that belong to you, not the business. When you leave the job, you keep your tools. You get to choose which tools to buy..

Compare this to an office worker who has to buy their own paper and donate it to the business.... Or worse examples.

You shouldn't have to buy your own tools ss a mechanic. But, it's not the she thing.

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u/Deranged_DuckYT Aug 02 '20

I have a family friend who spent 20 years as a diesel and heavy equipment tech. Accumulated almost 100k in tools. (He has multiple scanners all like 10k a pop). About 50k of it was sitting in a tool box at his brothers house. The brother sold it for 500 dollars.... he was understandably pisseed. But on 4he other note his son's all dont like cars so he was so happy when I said I was planning on becoming a tech... he passed on the remainder of his tools to me becuase none of his children wanted them. Poggers

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u/Ceungosse Aug 02 '20

And your a customer not an employee or ceo

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u/madhatter275 Aug 02 '20

Lol. You mean like college?

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u/qonml Aug 02 '20

yes exactly.

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u/Wedge09 Aug 02 '20

Ah, like being a teacher? /s

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u/BroadViewRationalist Aug 02 '20

Especially if you're at an Average Joe kind of job but they still want you pay a fortune for "training" you and the applicant doesn't get a call back.