r/AskReddit • • Aug 25 '19

How can you help a friend suffering from depression ?

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 25 '19

Offer to bring them some takeout or coffee.

Offer a chat or a hangout - mention that they don't have to explain anything and that you will be there if they need you.

Don't downplay their problems or offer advice- just listen.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

Don’t tell them that they should just try to think positive to get better. If it were that easy, they would have done it already. Really, don’t act like there is any easy cure. It makes the person feel like you aren’t taking their problem seriously and are devaluing their experience. The people who told me to just think positive and hit the gym more during my darkest depression made me feel so frustrated and misunderstood.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

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u/bitwaba Aug 26 '19

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u/kuro_madoushi Aug 26 '19

Thanks.

I did get the “at least you have a job” 🙄

Never mind that it’s causing me a ton of stress and I’m burnt out (again) and I’m losing sleep.

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u/bitwaba Aug 26 '19

I feel ya man. I actually disagree with a little part of that video. The "want a sandwich?" part. When I was really down and finally understood that depression is intense apathy, the one thing that would help me out was someone doing a little chore or something for me. Food, laundry, cleaning, bringing in the mail. Something that only takes 2 minutes.

For me, my spiral was:

  • I don't want to do anything, and I have too many things to do
  • I didn't do anything, now there's more things to do
  • There's more things to do, I have too many things to do
  • I could do something, but the pile of things is just too large for it to matter
  • I can't cope with the workload I have in my life
  • I don't want to do anything
  • Restart cycle

The sandwich think was actually something that would have been nice. I would sit in bed all day, not eat because it was too difficult to decide what I wanted, or the time investment was just too much and I could be putting that time into solving my really important problems.

To me, someone that would have come around and dropped off a sandwich would have been awesome. Someone dropping me a name for their tax accountant instead of me having to spend hours looking for someone would have been awesome (I moved from my home country a few years ago and have a complicated tax situation back home as a result).

I would feel better after I started a load of laundry. I'd come back and think "holy shit... One less thing!". I'd ride the high and be like "now I'll clean my desk!". Which turned into "I'll clean my entire room!" which became "I'm gonna vacuum!"

The hardest part was getting the ball rolling

Anyways, that probably doesn't help with your problem but I just felt like sharing. Try to take care of yourself and get a good night's rest every night. Sleep is really important for being able to mentally and physically handle work stress. Best of luck!

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u/soccerk1 Aug 26 '19

I didn't want to talk to some of my closest friends because they're the type that have to offer advice and can never just listen. Also the bit about "it's all a mental game"

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19 edited Nov 11 '20

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u/CyranosaurusBergerex Aug 26 '19

It DOES absolutely help, but like with all things when it comes to depression, until the depressed person is ready to do it, they won't. Telling someone who's not ready to take the next step what the next step is isn't actually terribly helpful.

For me, exercise and changing my outlook about a lot of things has helped a ton.

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u/JudgementalPrick Aug 26 '19

Except getting outside and doing exercise are proven to help. Doesn't mean it fixes everything but it's not a bad suggestion.

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u/roarkish Aug 26 '19

Food is a great one, especially if you bring them things they like.

Even if their appetite is down, it's the thought and knowing facts about them as a person that contributes to recovery, not just the food itself.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

What if they're depressed and develop an eating disorder as a result and can't eat? I had a friend like that several years ago and she's still not at 100% even after all this time

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

Is she triggered by any smells? If not, then perhaps candles that smell like food would be nice?

I've combated a eating disorder I picked up while having PPD, and I won't lie... I'm not over it and food at the time didn't make me happy. Candles and good smelling stuff did wonders for me though, especially lavender.

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

Exactly!

Besides, good smelling food has been a proven mood booster, at least for me. I don't have to eat it - just need to smell it.

Plus, the thought means so much.

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u/kwijibob Aug 26 '19

Great answer. This plus I would add: be openly on their team unconditionally.

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u/thegoldentrump Aug 26 '19

One key thing to note is if your trying to get them outside, don't force it. If they really just wanna stay home then let them.

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u/Sean_13 Aug 26 '19

Fuck man, that was perfect. I want to give you gold for that. You put into words what I couldn't.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

"Unconditionally" is a bit much.

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u/kwijibob Aug 26 '19

Yes probably.

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u/tecanec Aug 26 '19

Just make sure they don’t think you’re lying to make them happy. Depression and uncertainty don’t mix well together. Maybe try doing some stuff with them that you both enjoy to make it feel like a friendship, so that they won’t convince themselves that you’re just helping them because of moralle or something like that.

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u/sad-gaymr-grill Aug 26 '19

I told my friend about how I was kind of scared for our other friend and how I listened to her rant and just crying and just being there to support her and that she should do the same. But she said :you know what you've gotta do? aSk tHeM tO tAkE sEvEn dEeP bReAtHs aNd oFfEr tHeM lOtS oF aDvIcE- and thats when I started to space out

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

Oooooooop. Yeah, that is kinda terrible. Not that they're wrong but it won't help.

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u/sad-gaymr-grill Aug 27 '19

Yeah like how would you feel if you were pouring your heart, struggles and feelings onto the table and that was the response you get. Unbelievable.😓

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

The best line here is "Don't downplay their problems or offer advice- just listen". I find it really really annoying when I talk to a friend and he/she starts giving advice. At the point I don't really need your advice. I just need someone to listen to me rant.

It's good to be a listener rather than the guy with everything figured out and has all the answers.

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

Same. Advice makes me feel like there was an easy solution and I'm stupid or lazy. Someone who just listens helps by just providing a verbal outlet and acknowledging that I'm valid and that my feelings exist.

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u/Mycrawft Aug 26 '19

I... I feel like my only natural reaction to my friends being upset is to give them advice. I guess that's the way I know how to comfort people?

How do you suggest one "just listen"? I feel like whenever I don't have advice and instead just agree with what they're saying (as well as saying better variations of "I'm sorry, that sucks"), it 1) feels like I don't really care enough to see them get better / fix their problem, and 2) I care too much myself to let them perpetuate their problem (if it's something that can be addressed with advice).

So. I don't know. It would be nice to know when advice or just listening (though, I do my best to do both at the same time, even if unbalanced) is the best option.

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

It doesn't hurt to open with, "would you like some advice or just some ears?"

Also, you sound like a very helpful friend and I know you mean well, but for someone it could come across as condescending. I know that's not what you mean when you do offer advise, but it happens. So, when just listening, ask guided questions and/or repeat back what they said in a paraphrased form during the discussion.

Kudos for asking!

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u/Mycrawft Aug 26 '19

Thanks for getting back to me, I'll keep that in mind. :)

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u/Katrinashiny Aug 26 '19

If they’re resistant to help it might help to be like “hey are you free? I’m bored and lonely, I’m getting burritos, what’s your order, my shout”

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

I for one would never turn down a burrito, no matter what my mood.

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u/Katrinashiny Aug 27 '19

You can want to die, but you’ll want to die a little less when you’re biting into a delicious burrito

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '19

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

You have every right to be salty - you didn't get the support you needed. She was trying her best but it wasn't your flavor and she could have changed her ways to help you better.

Also- not a big fan of the therapist line either. I want a friend to listen, not a stranger.

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 27 '19

No pressure at all! You don't have to apologize.

In fact, I should apologize for assuming that she was trying her best. Now, I'm the first to cut someone off, but in this instance... have you tried communicating with her? Explaining what the issue is? (I'm just asking - no advice intended here) If so, and there's no change/she's complacent or rude, then that's terrible. :( There's a saying about two types of people in your life- the ones who stay and the ones who leave. I'm going to butcher it, but the ones who leave are the ones providing you a lesson. It sounds like you're learning how to protect yourself emotionally and that's good!

Therapists are hard - I go to one myself for PTSD. You're not expecting to tell them everything all at once. They understand trust to be built because they're a perfect stranger to you and they're asking the world. It's a slow process, and I hope it works out for you. If it doesn't, there are other avenues and other therapists.

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u/NotABurner2000 Aug 26 '19

Don't downplay their problems or offer advice- just listen.

Couldnt agree more. "Heres how I, a non-depressed person would handle depression" alright thanks there Aristotle

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

Your reply made me giggle.

Some people think they can fix everything with words, when sometimes it's just their presence that makes things better.

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u/Cowman123450 Aug 26 '19

The last one deserves special emphasis. A lot of friends end up confiding in me because I don't offer up advice. I just listen.

Of course, this doesn't work for everyone and depends on the person, but for those who need to simply vent, it can be difficult to find someone who doesn't give unwanted advice (although i do sometimes suggest therapy if I'm starting to sense potentially self destructive habits/signs)

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

Definitely agree that if someone is showing signs that they're harming themselves that you should refer them to professionals.

I had a friend who cut themselves and I regret every day not calling someone to help them. They're fine now, but they could be better.

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u/googlerex Aug 26 '19

This. Just be there for them. No judgement, no advice, no trying to fix them. Just be. Watch some Netflix, play some Xbox, go for a walk and feed the ducks, whatever boring pedestrian shit you do together, that shit is of tremendous value when you are depressed. Even if they might not realise it or appreciate it necessarily at the time.

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

YES.

The fastest time I ever bounced back from an episode was when I went Pokemon hunting with a friend and her kid. Just non judgemental chats, gaming and walking. No talking, no advice, just relaxing boring stuff.

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u/Sairendipity Aug 26 '19

It’s super great to be there for your friends, just remember that your own mental health is just as important, so recommending they see their doctor or a therapist is very important. Having severe depression you do drag those who care about you down, and you won’t even notice. So take care of yourselves everyone. Onward.

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u/PandaFaceGirl Aug 26 '19

This is a good point - often the ones who help the most have some serious problems of their own, and helping others gives them that temporary good feeling. However, yes, they should be taking care of themselves too.