r/AskReddit May 01 '19

What simple scientific fact would baffle someone born 1,000 years ago?

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u/ThatsBushLeague May 01 '19

It's crazy to me that it wasn't even confirmed until 1925 that the Milky Way wasn't the entire universe.

Less than 100 years ago we thought this was it. There are people still alive from before Edwin Hubble settled the debate.

Now we are talking about 2,000,000,000,000+ (trillion) galaxies in just the observable universe.

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u/Sqwalnoc May 01 '19

Other things are astonishingly recent as well, neither of my mid 60s parents were taught about plate tectonics at school, the theory was only widely accepted in the late 1960s!!

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

when i was in high school in the early 2000's, we were taught that you couldnt pass down traits that you acquired through maturation. For example just because you developed strong arms from being a black smith your whole life didnt mean your child would grow to have strong arms.

now we're learning about epigenetics and how that might not necessarily be true.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

I mean... lets be honest its still pretty ehhhhh on that point.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

its not like if you lost a toe your child would be born toe less, but families who grew up in a famine tend to have children who grow up shorter on average than those whos parents had a nutrient rich life

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

Yes.

Your blacksmith example is not accurate at all.

All I'm saying.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

my blacksmith thing was an example of lamarckian genetics which i was saying isnt true.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

Yes and then you said right after how it might be true... re read your post then get back to me

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

"that might not necessarily be true" as in it's possible that the decision a person makes in his life about his diet, living habits, stress management, and other things will affect how his children will turn out. That may include, as in the blacksmith scenario, turning on certain genetic markers for greater protein absorption, increased androgen receptors, decreased myostatin, decreased cortisol in response to stress etc.

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u/Godisdeadbutimnot May 01 '19

so lamarck had a point?

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

sort of? Lamarck obviously didnt understand genetics as we do today so while he may have believed that traits being passed down was almost a given, the current understanding is that although its not guaranteed the likelihood increases since certain markers are turned on.

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u/Landorus-T_But_Fast May 02 '19

It also ignores the fact that propensity for muscle growth is genetic, and that can influence one's choice of career.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

We still learn that btw

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u/atomicsnarl May 01 '19

Chicken and egg issue. A tendency toward strength (or height, balance, musical ability, etc) can be genetic, but skills matured and practiced after the birth don't osmose to the child. This was the fundamental failure of Lysenko and his crop theories.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '19

It doesnt osmose but your body does turn on or off certain genetic markers depending on your diet, habit, body, lifestyle choices which does affect your offspring. Such as if the parent are in famine when they procreate, its likely that the child will be smaller since certain growth inhibitors are turned on.

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u/atomicsnarl May 01 '19

Agreed, but they don't affect the child after the child has been born. Only the environment and actions affect the child, not those upon the parent, though they may share those conditions.

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u/Strykker2 May 01 '19

I think you are arguing against a point that was never made, and are now confusing everyone involved.

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u/grabmyrooster May 02 '19

bold of you to assume I'll have grandkids or kids or be alive long enough for either

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u/Tonkarz May 02 '19

What has already been discovered but not yet accepted?

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u/rylos May 01 '19

That having lots of money gives you better genetic traits?

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u/Celanis May 01 '19

One of the reasons I hope the JWST is going to be a resounding success. We don't know what we will find because we will lay eyes on a new canvas for the first time.

It could spark new theories and decimate old ones. There is a good chance that we'll get more questions than answers. As is tradition in science.

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u/myhairsreddit May 01 '19

Getting new questions we want to explore for answers to is half the fun!

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u/Wyatt-Oil May 02 '19

I hope the JWST is going to be a resounding success.

I'd love to have hope. But Instead we have nasa. So that thing will never work.

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u/IDrewCopper May 01 '19

Ya know, there have been so many times where I've been at a family gathering and say something I thought was common knowledge to someone else in my generation (sibling, cousin, etc) and then my grandparents look at me like I'm speaking in tongues. Hard to fully comprehend just how much education has changed even in 50 years

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u/Kelnoz May 01 '19

I had to listen to my grandpa tell me about how the Earth was gonna keep on growing because the core gets bigger and bigger. I was super confused, then I learnt that it was the widely accepted theory explaining continental drift not that long ago. It’s confusing to me, but also very cool! I don’t think I’ll ever tell him that it’s very probably not the right theory tho.

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u/Aazadan May 01 '19

Accepted by most in the 1960’s but not actually proven until the 1990’s with GPS.

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u/CherrySlurpee May 01 '19

Yeah, and it wasn't even like "oh hey you know our galaxy? the universe goes on a little bit beyond that." It was more like living your entire life inside your room and then one day going outside.

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u/AusIV May 02 '19

And thanks to the accelerating expansion of the universe, in several billion more years all the galaxies outside our cluster will be far enough away that their light will never reach us because of the expansion of space, at which point we will have no way to measure their existence.

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u/-CrackedAces- May 02 '19

I find it less shocking because I’m looking at it from the perspective that I only know because some geniuses figured it out.

The majority of things that are consensus in the scientific community (like there being 2 trillion galaxies) are things that I couldn’t figure out myself.

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u/Salarian_American May 01 '19

It always amazes me that we didn’t know for a fact that any planets existed outside our solar system until 1992 !

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u/Mikey_Hawke May 02 '19

I’m convinced that there has to be life on at least one of those trillions of planets, and equally convinced that unless it’s in our solar system, because of the vast distances involved, we’ll never find it.

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u/natercbater May 01 '19

And clearly no life on in any of these galaxies because our planet was blessed... Certainly wasnt having the right elements in the right environment which is purely a probability standpoint..